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Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Re: Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Post by jonathanstrange »

kyle-rb wrote: post #67

I just don't understand how this gets implemented without someone speaking up and saying "hey, wait, isn't this an insane thing to do?". I would guess it's some combination of the complainers being ignored, and people at a higher level thinking "well we're doing this in a secure way, as long as the user trusts us, and why wouldn't they trust us, we're Facebook!".

LinkedIn has been doing this for years. It's the reason why I don't use it (and the spam they send is the reason why everybody hates them).

Re: Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Post by orbifold »

atulvi wrote: post #81
danielscrubs wrote: post #73

I noticed that when I was dating around it was extremely important that they could find my Facebook profile if I said I don't use Facebook much they would immediately respond with scepticism. For that purpose alone I kept it. And they have a point, it's easy to find out if someone is single or not via Facebook, and you are bound by your friends to be truthful. I'm not single anymore, but I'm still curious, in those c…

> countries where everyone is sleeping around with everyone I want to know where these are

France obviously:)

Re: Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #141
kyle-rb wrote: post #67

I just don't understand how this gets implemented without someone speaking up and saying "hey, wait, isn't this an insane thing to do?". I would guess it's some combination of the complainers being ignored, and people at a higher level thinking "well we're doing this in a secure way, as long as the user trusts us, and why wouldn't they trust us, we're Facebook!".

LinkedIn has been doing this for years. It's the reason why I don't use it (and the spam they send is the reason why everybody hates them).

You mean emails? I've managed to turn them all off; if that doesn't work, you can file a complaint with the EU who have strict laws against e-mail spam, and the requirement to unsubscribe with as few actions as possible.

Re: Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

Simple_Guy wrote: post #89
kyle-rb wrote: post #67

I just don't understand how this gets implemented without someone speaking up and saying "hey, wait, isn't this an insane thing to do?". I would guess it's some combination of the complainers being ignored, and people at a higher level thinking "well we're doing this in a secure way, as long as the user trusts us, and why wouldn't they trust us, we're Facebook!".

Why is this insane? It's just asking. If you don't want to, don't give your pw to facebook. You make a proposition to an entity, they evaluate the risk-benefit and respond. Unless of course, you think adults are actually childiren and should be protected from themselves by the technocrats.

Because most people need to be protected against themselves; a lot of people, even tech savvy ones, only find out later that their data has been stolen or their privacy breached.

I mean a random but common example is stolen credit card details. Out of automatism most people will fill those in when they're ordering something, without wondering whether the site is secure. And usually they are secure enough at the time of writing, only a few years down the line someone dumps them onto a public S3 bucket by accident. Whoops. If the system was secure by default - that is, CC data never passing to the webshop - that would be a preventable occasion.

Email in this case is the same - don't give FB access to your emails in the first place and they'll never be able to "accidentally" read all your emails.

Re: Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Post by throwawaylolx »

Simple_Guy wrote: post #89
kyle-rb wrote: post #67

I just don't understand how this gets implemented without someone speaking up and saying "hey, wait, isn't this an insane thing to do?". I would guess it's some combination of the complainers being ignored, and people at a higher level thinking "well we're doing this in a secure way, as long as the user trusts us, and why wouldn't they trust us, we're Facebook!".

Why is this insane? It's just asking. If you don't want to, don't give your pw to facebook. You make a proposition to an entity, they evaluate the risk-benefit and respond. Unless of course, you think adults are actually childiren and should be protected from themselves by the technocrats.

The user that found this and is cited in OP's article mentions there was no alternative to giving Facebook your password: https://twitter.com/originalesushi/status/111249895877604966...

Re: Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Post by hiisukun »

Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #83
tapland wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Swedish payment processor Klarna does something similar to this as well. If bying something through the platform by direct bank transfer you are asked to sign to your bank to accept the payment using BankID [0], which is normal. What is not normal is that they grab your personal identification number and send a login request using BankID before you open your app. When authenticating the login you authorize one of Kla…

POLi in Australia also asks for your bank username and password, logs into your bank's online portal, and performs a bank transfer on your behalf; which is of course in violation of the bank's policies. It's truly insane, if I see any company accepting payment via POLi it's instant verification the company in question is clueless and that I should avoid using their services whenever possible, because they have zero i…

Thanks for this comment. I had no idea - other than regularly seeing POLi as an option (that my bank didn't support) when visiting some of the websites you mentioned.

I will certainly steer clear of this process in the future.

Re: Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Post by ddalex »

passalong2019 wrote: post #127
emilsedgh wrote: post #123

I think Facebook is very desperate and they don't seem to have a choice. You see, Facebook has Facebook.com, Instagram and Whatsapp. Facebook.com has already reached it's peak and is not going to grow. Instagram is likely to have the same trajectory as Facebook.com and Whatsapp is not making them money anyways. They failed to get into any new market or come up with any decent product. And they are supposed to compete…

> extremely competitive offerings Chrome OS Have you followed news recently? It's dead.

At least they not afraid to kill semi failures

Re: Facebook Asking for Some New Users' Email Passwords

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Post by samtrack2019 »

The sad story of people is that they give their email password to everyone who are asking, I keep telling my friends that please don't tell me your password and just type it but they keep laughing at me i.e: stop it! you and your crazy tin hat. it's the sad reality really.
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