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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by 0815test »

tomtomtom777 wrote: post #86
quickthrower2 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or more bluntly: click bait wins. Now you don’t get away with taboola style headlines here, they have to be more sophisticated, but they need to grab interest.

In this case, it's not click bait that is winning. > Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server isn't click bait, but simply much more clear and to the point than > Ask HN: HMD Global (Nokia) is acting shady Any recourse?

"You won't BELIEVE what these Nokia phones are sending to China! Read the Secret we Found Out."

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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jsnider3 wrote: post #134
happppy wrote: post #114

Statement from HMD Global We have analyzed the case and can confirm that there has been an error in the packing process of software in a single batch of a telephone model, which by mistake attempted to send activation data to a foreign server. The data was never processed and no personal information was shared with third parties or authorities. This has now been fixed and almost any device affected by this error has…

If that's an official statement, it should probably come with a link to a corresponding press release. Random hacker news comments aren't the most trustworthy.

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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by shrikant »

ChrisSD wrote: post #139
atzd4b wrote: post #45

It's shameful of Google (but totally expected) that they don't supervise the Android One program AT ALL. All of the Android One mobiles appear on the top list of their Android One microsite and I'm sure most of them contain malware built-in. https://www.android.com/one/ Having said this, I never expected Nokia to be doing that, too. Both Nokia and HMD are Finnish, do they really need to outsource the creation of the…

You're right. My Android One Nokia 7.1 comes with at least 64 evenwell/HMDGlobal apps, albeit behind the scenes. There's no docs on any of them as far as I can tell so you can only guess from the name what they do. https://pastebin.com/LehzyCMU That said I've not noticed anything obviously suspicious when I use a firewall to monitor it. I only did it as a test so I might have missed something. Also I'm in the UK, if…

I've got a Nokia 8 (also bought in the UK) with the Evenwell system apps as well, and I haven't noticed any unusual domains in my Pi-hole logs at home.

I wonder if it's only specific country builds that display this behaviour?

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by est »

robjan wrote: post #78
ElBarto wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which makes it a Chinese company, yes...

Regardless of border politics, Taiwan has its own government

regardless of government, taiwan is an island full of Chinese people, speaking practice every aspect of (traditional-ish) Chinese.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by robjan »

est wrote: post #144
robjan wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of border politics, Taiwan has its own government

regardless of government, taiwan is an island full of Chinese people, speaking practice every aspect of (traditional-ish) Chinese.

People's race has nothing to do with their alignment with other governments.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by [deleted] »

jsnider3 wrote: post #134
happppy wrote: post #114

Statement from HMD Global We have analyzed the case and can confirm that there has been an error in the packing process of software in a single batch of a telephone model, which by mistake attempted to send activation data to a foreign server. The data was never processed and no personal information was shared with third parties or authorities. This has now been fixed and almost any device affected by this error has…

If that's an official statement, it should probably come with a link to a corresponding press release. Random hacker news comments aren't the most trustworthy.

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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by dx87 »

RandomBacon wrote: post #132

Shouldn't this be something that the NSA looks into and prevents? The NSA works with US companies to secure their systems from espionage. Shouldn't the NSA be analyzing consumer electronics to make sure they don't spy on US citizens, some of which will have sensitive information or trade secrets on their phones?

They do warn the public, but people on this site say the warnings aren't real, and that it's just the government trying to hurt Chinese businesses. Look at any of the threads about Huawei, it's mostly full of people saying that the warnings from western intelligence agencies are lies as part of a trade war.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by auiya »

4thaccount wrote: post #83
eknkc wrote: post #56

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Yeah, I recently switched from iPhone to Samsung Galaxy S10. I don't have a previous experience so my reasoning was "well it's Samsung, at worst they'll have some shitty branded apps and some cruft". But I don't have an idea what these dozens of preinstalled apps running on my phone doing. Almost none of them can be uninstalled and only a handful can be disabled. It is kind of scary to use a banking app on this thing…

Ever try the phones from Google with pretty much nothing pre-installed? It is a much better experience, but yes Android is still proper shit in some ways. In others it has come so far. I never have to restart my phone like I had to for my Galaxy S1 every day.

> I never have to restart my phone like I had to for my Galaxy S1 every day.

Give it time. The slow-downs/reboots happen to every Android device over time.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by [deleted] »

RandomBacon wrote: post #132

Shouldn't this be something that the NSA looks into and prevents? The NSA works with US companies to secure their systems from espionage. Shouldn't the NSA be analyzing consumer electronics to make sure they don't spy on US citizens, some of which will have sensitive information or trade secrets on their phones?

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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by auiya »

RandomBacon wrote: post #132

Shouldn't this be something that the NSA looks into and prevents? The NSA works with US companies to secure their systems from espionage. Shouldn't the NSA be analyzing consumer electronics to make sure they don't spy on US citizens, some of which will have sensitive information or trade secrets on their phones?

This is more FBI's lane of work.
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