MSG unquestioningly is a headache trigger for me. I've done multiple A/B tests with MSG with/without spices.
So do you stay away from many processed foods like chips, frozen meals, and pre-packaged cold cuts?
How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only reason the argument is somehow suspect, is because people can't say anything about a group of people that's not considered racist by some "professionally offended on behalf of others". Anything negative I mean. They might be OK with 100% praise (though even that has been accused of "idealizing" and other BS by the "professionally offended on behalf of others"). So people saying e.g. "I'm not racist against X…
We really need to put a cultural moratorium/ban on being offended on behalf of others . I'm sure someone will pop up about how maybe the "others" are just too afraid to speak, but in practice I'm just not seeing that very often, but I am seeing a lot of people trying to basically culturally appropriate someone else's victimhood. And of course the people doing that are the most tedious and annoying spokespeople possib…
What's worse is that most of these people do it for the because it's a fashion, harmless, gives you instant media credits.
In the days when it was most needed (in the segregation times, when gay and AIDS was a dirty word, etc) only people with balls supported those minorities, and those people could not care less about BS "politically correct" names and such.
Now, everybody and their dog support causes just because it's fashionable and scores them points.
Such opportunists are worse than active bigots -- if Nazi's where in fashion, they'd score points by being nazis.
Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
#143Though I am skeptical of the bad rep MSG gets, I find that I can get the same umami flavor for the most part from using nutritional yeast. I like the fact that it gives me control over the umami aspect of what I'm cooking without altering the salt content. That let's me control the saltiness of the food with actual salt rather than adding MSG and hoping I'm not oversalting for the sake of having that "secret sauce" e…
I use a mix of porcini/shiitake/maitake powders, nutritional yeast, MSG, stock bases (with their hydrolized proteins), fish sauce, soy sauce, Vietnamese mushroom seasoning, and Worcestershire sauce to control my umami, and they all have their specific uses. Nutritional yeast and fish sauce are the most likely NOT to go with the flavors of whatever I'm cooking, and MSG can literally go into anything as long as I know I want to use it prior to doing the final salt edit.
Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nitrates are unhealthy, even if vendors are intentionally misleading about celery.
The weird thing is, many vegetables are full of nitrates but people only seem to care when they are in meat.
That (probably) has some reality, because the issue is that nitrates and high heat cooking + proteins probably causes generation of Nitrosamine, which are carcinogenic.
Don't eat meat all the time and you will be fine.
Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
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#146I have no antipathy towards MSG. I can taste that it tastes good. The thing is really: It messes with my sleep . I don't know how, but sometimes I get a high dose in me and I just cannot get to sleep, like at all. Elevated heart rate, mind racing, all night long. _That_ I do not like. I don't believe it's an evil chemical, it's naturally occurring after all. But yeah, if someone knows a hack to cure the occassional i…
Wanted to give you a separate reply for an insomnia hack. The best thing I ever did was find someone who did cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). Ultimately insomnia is self perpetuating because we start to have anxiety about not being able to sleep, which fires up our fight or flight responses. Our body then starts to automatically associate bedtime with anxiety. If you can find someone who treats anxiety with CBT th…
There's an insomnia-specific CBT practice (CBTI) which is more targeted than general anxiety.
Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
#147This is a garbage non-article. It admits some people have sensitivity to MSG. It doesn't offer evidence against some other additive in chinese food is making people experience racing heart. It doesn't even consider the possibility that in the past MSG had some impurity that caused a health issue that may not be reproducible now. It doesn't even consider how detached the long-term effects of food are (think how long i…
Anybody care to explain the downvotes?
It's almost certainly due to your opening statement "This is a garbage non-article."
Over 100 people have upvoted this story, and thus it's likely that they think that this is an article worth reading and recommending. You are indirectly telling them that their judgement is similarly "garbage", and they are reacting with downvotes. The contents of your objections seem reasonable to me, but if your goal is productive discourse, the overall tone of your comment off-putting. You'd probably get a better response if you found a way to offer improvements to the article without offending those who liked it.
Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
#148I grew up eating foods with MSG. I'm usually aware of it. It's one of cooks' favorite abused ingredients. Eating a lot of MSG is bad, just like eating a lot of anything, sugar, salt.
You're never eating "a lot" of MSG, though. Even the most abusive chef is adding it at the level of well under half a gram per serving, whereas you're eating minimum 5x that in salt and likely 10-20x that in sugar if you're not optimizing for minimal sugar intake.
Re: How MSG Got a Bad Rap (2016)
#149Makes my friend go blind for a while after he eats it.
He should donate himself to science, and should also avoid... most food.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You should think carefully about why you're so desperate to disingenuously downplay the effects of racism on modern attitudes Yes, because if you think something isn't caused by racism, then you must be racist. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kafkatrap I don't see any sign of desperation or disingenuousness in the reply, but that's probably because I'm an unconscious racist too.
He misrepresented the article. It does not claim that racism 'explains everything', merely that it was one of a number of factors which have led to the demonisation of MSG. That was a disingenous attempt to erase the effects of racism through ridicule.
The article provides no evidence that racism had anything to do with it. It links to a social history "study" which simply asserts it based on the existence of racism. It is disengenous to assume racism when there is no evidence of it being a causal factor.
Additionally, the implication in the comment I replied to was that the commentor must have hidden motivations, probably racist ones, for denying the influence of racism. That is a piece of obnoxious mind-reading that stifles reasonable dialogue.