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Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Having been involved in the community for most of my life, my very first thought was "oh that's cool he's one of us" and then I remembered that historically hackers have been phenomenally bad people to give any kind of real power to.

I like the idea of a politician who doesn't need someone to hand them a Fisher-Price 'My first iPhone' and explain to them how a computer works in a congressional session.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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> Yang is going to gain steam. Might give Kamala a run for her money. While it's extremely early (though in most recent elections, the eventual primary winner was at this point in first or second place, more often second), Harris is only polling third (consistently, across polls) and is way behind Biden (first) and Sanders (second, so arguably the most likely nominee).

>Sanders (second, so arguably the most likely nominee). I wonderfully interested that you think the DNC would allow that to happen after just two year of being shown explicitly that they will do whatever is needed to make sure that does not happen.

> I wonderfully interested that you think the DNC would allow that to happen after just two year of being shown explicitly that they will do whatever is needed to make sure that does not happen.

It's not the same DNC. While the Sanders faction didn't gain control after the 2016 election, they essentially got a power-sharing agreement and, more importantly, they've gotten a bunch of reforms, including mostly neutralizing the power of superdelegates. And Sanders is starting 2020 in a much stronger position than 2016, and doing so without an opponent with anywhere close to the establishment power of Clinton, whose partisans also were in charge of the DNC at the time.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #102

Having been involved in the community for most of my life, my very first thought was "oh that's cool he's one of us" and then I remembered that historically hackers have been phenomenally bad people to give any kind of real power to.

There's a wonderful glamorization of hackers and so forth. It's so appealing to think of some folks fighting the man from their keyboards and doing good things. So much so we have seen tech enthusiasts fawn over hacking groups from time to time and ignore less desirable behavior ... until we realize in the end they're just not what we want them / imagine them to be. I still like to think of there being some idealisti…

IMHO, the best hackers aren't forming groups and vying for "cred". They're quietly building their skills and exploring, while avoiding the spotlight at all costs.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #73

Why are all the articles about Beto about how cool and antiestablishment he is? Just absolutely nothing about what he really intends to do, how he intends to do it, and most importantly, how do we reconcile his conservative voting record with this contrary image he presents?

What's wrong with a "conservative voting record"?

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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>it's trying to make things sound more nefarious than they were, and it's playing the guilt by association card Are we reading the same article? If anything this article seems like a submarine PR puff piece to me, made to increase the image of Beto by making him seem "cool" and "hip" by associating him with the typically-seen-as-sexy "hacker" scene. This article is very similar to the pro-Beto stuff that was all over…

'typically-seen-as-sexy "hacker" scene'? By who? His association with At The Drive-In gives him more street cred than any tenuous relationship with hacking.

Society glamorizes hackers hard. Have you ever seen War Games? The Matrix? Live Free or Die Hard? Mr Robot? Blackhat? Any recent spy movie? What about the multitude of other movies/shows where hackers aren't the focus, but are certainly glamorized, a la NCIS, CSI, Limitless, etc. There's an entire genre of film & television about hackers and they are almost always portrayed as cool, attractive, powerful people with the world at their fingertips.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #118

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You should; lack of moderate voices in primaries only helps fringe candidates.

Except when you're not allowed to, which happens a lot if you're registered as an Independent... > In a closed primary, only voters registered with a given party can vote in that party's primary. States with closed primaries include party affiliation in voter registration so that the state has an official record of what party each voter is registered as. https://www.fairvote.org/open_and_closed_primaries The system i…

I don’t understand arguments for open primaries. If you’re not a member of a political party what business do you have in voting who they want to represent them in the presidential election?

What stops people voting for unpopular candidates in order to sabotage the party?

Isn’t it basically the same as entryism?

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #141

Having been involved in the community for most of my life, my very first thought was "oh that's cool he's one of us" and then I remembered that historically hackers have been phenomenally bad people to give any kind of real power to.

I like the idea of a politician who doesn't need someone to hand them a Fisher-Price 'My first iPhone' and explain to them how a computer works in a congressional session.

I'd rather politicians have no idea how technology works so they can leave us the hell alone.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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post #25

Wonder what his handle was.

"Psychedelic Warlord" Well, at least he didn't turn out to be Satoshi. That would be one of the few ways to top this.

Personally I don't think "Satoshi" is a singular person.
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