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Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by colordrops »

kstenerud wrote: post #40
colordrops wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the opposite feeling. I feel like I'm in a trash dump when I use an overlapping window manager, and have to sort through the pile to find what I need. Tiling window managers perhaps make more sense for devs or other professionals who use several of the same applications every day and know what window and pane they will be on, and can switch quickly with keystrokes. That being said, once you internalize the mode…

What I usually want to do is just click and resize to something that "feels right" for each of my programs, and then flip between them as needed, then resize again later as I workflow progresses. Often I want some important text from one to be visible while I'm working in another (thus overlapping), so I jockey them around until it feels right, and go.

Funny enough that's precisely my use case for tiling window managers. I'm often referencing one app to do work in another, and often one is just a bit too overlapped to see what I need, and I also need to lay windows out every time I do this work. With a tiling window manager, you can be sure that your app is not obfuscated, and there are various adjustments you can make to pane size and layout to get the right amount of screen space and positioning for apps. You can also save and restore layouts for particulars workflows.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by sevensor »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #101
williamdclt wrote: post #99

I like the idea of tiling window managers but never got the use for it. 99% of my time is spent between my browser, my IDE and my terminal. A half-size browser is painful to work with, I need it full screen. Same for IDE. Same for terminal, I do need multiple terminals but I want them together. I also have another workspace for chat stuff (browser with whatsapp, slack, messenger) and another for random apps (spotify…

Personally for the most part I only have one application per workspace, and switch workspaces frequently. I often have several terminals on one workspace, though. I don't regularly use any GUI applications other than qutebrowser (web browser) and alacritty (terminal emulator).

Would you recommend alacritty at this point? I've been mostly happy with kitty lately, but I haven't tried alacritty since its very early days.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by josteink »

That’s great news. Congratulations to everyone in this important release!

Now for a completely orthogonal but still slightly related question: which Linux-browser does currently have the best Wayland-support?

Any clear favorite or are they all pretty much the same?

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

DCKing wrote: post #127
kstenerud wrote: post #24

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I really don't get the benefit of a tiling window manager. I tried one and instantly felt boxed in. There's not enough room on the screen for everything I need to have opened and flip between, which is why I use an overlapping window manager in the first place.

With a tiling window manager, every window you open has cognitive overload. Which workspace, which location on screen, is it okay if other windows resize, or do I have it float even? Every tile you add affects the other tiles in some way - at the very least a new tile (e.g. on a new workspace) consumes space that cannot be taken by other tiles. The reward for this additional cognitive load is that every action is con…

What I've been thinking is, why can't we have both? Imagine just two changes: a workspace's mode can be switched between tiling and floating, and additional workspaces are just windows. Now you can have any combination of floating and tiling that makes sense to you. You could, for instance, set your desktop to tiling mode and open two new workspace windows, the switch one to floating and run your GUI desktop stuff on the left side of the screen and several terminal tiles on the right.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

reaperducer wrote: post #138
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #126

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https://swaywm.org should cover this right?

Should, but doesn't. This is all there is: "Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Windows are arranged into a grid by default which maximizes the efficiency of your screen and can be quickly manipulated using only the keyboard." Sounds interesting. No screenshots, though. Just a big black box reading "No compatible source was found for this media." I guess it's trying t…

There is a video. Are you sure you aren't using Netscape? The video is webm, which is supported by all major browsers.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by mikenew »

reaperducer wrote: post #138
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #126

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https://swaywm.org should cover this right?

Should, but doesn't. This is all there is: "Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Windows are arranged into a grid by default which maximizes the efficiency of your screen and can be quickly manipulated using only the keyboard." Sounds interesting. No screenshots, though. Just a big black box reading "No compatible source was found for this media." I guess it's trying t…

There's a short explanation and a very nice 2 minute video demonstrating how it works. I think expecting people to be able to view a webm video is pretty reasonable.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by williamdclt »

sevensor wrote: post #143
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #101

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Personally for the most part I only have one application per workspace, and switch workspaces frequently. I often have several terminals on one workspace, though. I don't regularly use any GUI applications other than qutebrowser (web browser) and alacritty (terminal emulator).

Would you recommend alacritty at this point? I've been mostly happy with kitty lately, but I haven't tried alacritty since its very early days.

I'm interested too. I've been looking and looking but can't seem to find a good terminal on mac... There's plenty on Linux (tilda did the job I asked perfectly) but none on macos

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

sevensor wrote: post #143
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally for the most part I only have one application per workspace, and switch workspaces frequently. I often have several terminals on one workspace, though. I don't regularly use any GUI applications other than qutebrowser (web browser) and alacritty (terminal emulator).

Would you recommend alacritty at this point? I've been mostly happy with kitty lately, but I haven't tried alacritty since its very early days.

Yeah, it's pretty decent.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by slashink »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #133
slashink wrote: post #114

Really exciting to see this released! Is there a good distro to run this on? I run Ubuntu at home but from my understanding, adding Sway to Ubuntu seems non-trivial. Is there a good distro I can switch to that supports Sway?

Sway runs fine on most distros, so it's going to come down to other things. Debian experimental has a package for it.

But Debian ships default with X still right? So what distros are wayland native with Sway in the repos?
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