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Not working with JS disabled is bad, but not working on a major modern browser is ridiculous.
Safari is the new IE8. Every web dev I know bitches about it.
It's not. I'm a web developer and it's my browser of choice.
Google .dev domain early access
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Re: Google .dev domain early access
#142Does anyone know how the “premium” renewal prices are set and governed? I’m going through this right now with .app domains (also owned by Google). Apparently domains categorized as “premium” have a much higher yearly pricing, and how it’s priced is not specified anywhere on the registry website. I called a few registrars and they said that the premium pricing is set by the registry. What’s concerning is that the regi…
Are you saying the registry can arbitrarily change the .app domain renewal price without control, or that they can charge a different renewal price for different .app domains? I've experienced weird price fluctuations with .io domain renewals in the past, but haven't owned one in a few years.
According to registrars, yes. So for example, let's say I paid $1000 for a premium .app last year when they were released. Renewal price is marked for something like $280/yr, which I didn't expect, because I thought the premium pricing was an initial purchase price only. I thought the renewal price was standard .app renewal rates.
When I called to clarify with a few registrars, they said that this premium price ($280) is specified by the registry (Google), and that there's no guarantee that pricing will stay at $280. I used a hypothetical, and asked them if it were possible for Google to raise the price to something like $1000/yr or $10k/yr, and they confirmed that there is technically nothing stopping the registry from doing so.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#143Just to make sure, you can't get multiple domains with early access, right?
> The Early Access Fee is a one-time payment to secure your desired .dev domain
That sounds like one fee per domain to me
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#144Is the gouge for early access normal for registrars with a new TLD?
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#145Does anyone know how the “premium” renewal prices are set and governed? I’m going through this right now with .app domains (also owned by Google). Apparently domains categorized as “premium” have a much higher yearly pricing, and how it’s priced is not specified anywhere on the registry website. I called a few registrars and they said that the premium pricing is set by the registry. What’s concerning is that the regi…
You could try transferring your domain to another registrar if you feel like you're getting gouged
The renewal price is the same at any registrar, the pricing comes from the registry.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#146Is the gouge for early access normal for registrars with a new TLD?
Sadly, yes. The whole domain business is like that, profiteering at every turn.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#147I really actually hope Google decides to not index .dev domains/sites. It’s crazy how many times have I seen a site in dev or staging that gets indexed by google but shouldn’t be indexed.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#148This "early-access" price which decreases over time is an approximation of a Dutch auction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction Dutch auctions are incentive-compatible - they allocate the resource to the person that gains the highest utility for having it. Maybe Google got some of the people working on ads auctions to design this pricing structure.
Google has a long history with the Dutch auction, they used it in their IPO, back in '04.
Thank you for mentioning this. Memories are increasingly short, and this is nothing new!
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#149I really actually hope Google decides to not index .dev domains/sites. It’s crazy how many times have I seen a site in dev or staging that gets indexed by google but shouldn’t be indexed.
That wouldn't make sense since the TLD isn't just for the staging phase of a website. It's for anything.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#150Google is such a big company, I find it bizarre they are trying to make money in this way. It would be interesting to know what they make at the end of the pre-sale.
My guess would be that this isn't primarily about the money (there are probably domains they could get more than $11,500 for), but rather about allocating the most in-demand domains in a way that reflects how badly people want them. A Dutch-auction-type thing like they're doing is a crude solution to this problem, but if they just went straight to GA too much valuable real estate would immediately be claimed by squat…
The squatters defense is a good point - however, this also seems to ensure that the megacorps get the best pieces before anybody else gets to choose.
If defending against squatters is the top priority, they could also make it an application-driven process: Let people submit proposals about what they want to do with the domains along with a link to their organisation and have some group grant applications (preferably along some previously published criteria)