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Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by lmm »

newsbinator wrote: post #12
jumbopapa wrote: post #9

Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The Reddit situation reminds me of the post about failing to build a billion dollar company a few days ago. Reddit is trying to make VCs happy and continue to grow the business, but a platform like Reddit is best as a less reliant on growth, but s…

Can you imagine the reaction if a user's post on HN were edited by YC? I guess it'd be the instant death of the network. That this action a) happened on Reddit + b) was mostly/quickly forgotten says a lot about the different demographics. Audiences who largely come for cat pictures and political snark don't have to worry about CEOs breaking the 4th wall. I've been a Redditor for 9+ years and I still am one. But today…

> I guess it'd be the instant death of the network.

Nonsense. HN moderators already act with zero accountability. This is possibly the only major site that shadowbans users as a matter of course.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by hombre_fatal »

tehwebguy wrote: post #115
jmknoll wrote: post #96

There have been a number of planned exoduses from Reddit over the years (the banning of FatPeopleHate, some kind of succession crisis with the CEO, and the banning of the AMA mod, to name some off the top of my head), but none of them has actually materialized into anything. My question is - What is preventing this? Is it just a matter of getting enough critical mass onto the new platform? Or is there some other logi…

The answer is simple: community. Reddit is where the community is. Digg presumably had more traffic at some point but it was always a voteable link dump with a comment section. It was never really a community.

Besides, people vary between not noticing, not caring, or getting involved in the drama because it's actually fun but still not really caring.

99% of Reddit couldn't tell you the name of the mentioned Reddit CEO or fired AMA manager.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by Kaivo »

umanghome wrote: post #108
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #66

Are there examples of companies that said “this is enough money” and stopped concentrating on having ever increasing profits every quarter to satisfy VC or stock investors? I think of this a lot lately. It seems companies don’t want to just do what they do well anymore and be satisfied with that. Can someone give me some inspiration? Companies that have such pride in their work that they aren’t constantly looking for…

Basecamp.

DHH made a nice post about it a few years back (2015) https://medium.com/signal-v-noise/reconsider-41adf356857f

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by ajross »

humanrebar wrote: post #136
ajross wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. All forums are "plagued" in that way, though. This one too. Everyone who wants to run such a service has a personal idea of what expression is appropriate within the vision of the site and which ones aren't welcome. And everyone has personal sensitivities and makes moderation mistakes, too. Honestly if reddit has failed, it's been in the opposite direction. They've been…

Disagree. Google isn't responsible for the content of emails, WhatsApp is not responsible for the groups using it to organize, and the monuments in D.C. aren't responsible when some folks decide to yell bigoted language. There needs to be room for public spaces to just be venues. Service providers should be able to just be service providers. There should be limits, but they should mostly align with legal limits and t…

Again, though, that's what you say you want, but it's not what you want. You want moderation, you want focused discussion, you want to be free of objectionable garbage, you want high signal to noise ratio, and the proof of that is that you're having this argument on a heavily moderated discussion forum as we speak.

There's no lack of "true" free speech opportunity on the internet. Sites like stormfront and 4chan remain a thing. Don't pretend like that's what we all want from Reddit, is all I'm saying.

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by deadalus »

intopieces wrote: post #114
jumbopapa wrote: post #9

Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The Reddit situation reminds me of the post about failing to build a billion dollar company a few days ago. Reddit is trying to make VCs happy and continue to grow the business, but a platform like Reddit is best as a less reliant on growth, but s…

>The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The CEO changed a single post from "fuck " to "fuck " for an hour. While certainly this action was not received well, the drama it caused is way overblown and isn't evidence of being 'plagued with censorship.' If anything it's plagued with shills from governments and corporations.

> the drama it caused is way overblown

People have been arrested because of Reddit posts they made. If the admins can edit comments without any indication to the users... They can falsely accuse you of a crime. They can also identify you and ban you specially if you do or say things not in alignment with the founders of Reddit(criticizing Serina Williams got a subreddit banned recently).

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by humanrebar »

sodosopa wrote: post #38
jumbopapa wrote: post #9

Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The Reddit situation reminds me of the post about failing to build a billion dollar company a few days ago. Reddit is trying to make VCs happy and continue to grow the business, but a platform like Reddit is best as a less reliant on growth, but s…

Editing one post is bad, but also consider that they've become a massive safe harbor for the alt-right. Reddit admins routinely dismiss threats, quick to hide accounts from people like Elliott Rodgers, etc. They edited a the_donald post all while allowing bigotry and hate speech flourish on Reddit.

But there are also TwoXChromosomes, LateStageCapitalism, and all the niche sexual orientation subs. A lot of Reddit is pretty woke, so it's a safe harbor for quite a bit, right?

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by Shivetya »

Pretty much the front page is purged of the "protest". I air quoted it for the sheer ridiculousness of it all. Why?

Pretty sure you would find many posting and or reading from their Chinese made phones in their homes with Chinese made appliances and other such accouterments all the while having ignored some of these events that occurred during their adult lifetime but where many occurred long before.

In other words it is a disappointing sign of what constitutes standing up for one's beliefs. Where posting on a social network, hash tag tweets, and more, are the only effort they will ever make. Yet they wonder why the world ignores them for the most part.

Oh I am quite sure there are politicians willing to exploit them, many willingly will line up for it, if anything to feel as if they make a difference. Then they forget by the next time they line up for their morning latte

Re: Reddit's user uprising against China because Tencent will invest in the platform

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Post by arminiusreturns »

tehwebguy wrote: post #85
jumbopapa wrote: post #9

Reddit has long been plagued with censorship. The CEO edited the post of a user because they criticized him or something. I can't believe how quickly that's been forgotten. The Reddit situation reminds me of the post about failing to build a billion dollar company a few days ago. Reddit is trying to make VCs happy and continue to grow the business, but a platform like Reddit is best as a less reliant on growth, but s…

People that won’t let that prank go have no business in any discussion about the platform. It’s a completely disingenuous argument.

I would say by misrepresenting the arguments of your opponents and simplifying them to the point of removing them, it is you who is making the disingenuous argument.
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