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Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by rplnt »

neosavvy wrote: post #65
crazysim wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$90 individual https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/buy/#edition=personal But you're probably right.

If you are a student it's free. Also good tools are worth paying for, I have been a subscription user of their tools now for years. I think it's like $199 for a subscription to the whole suite. If you are a dev (or work for someone who expects you to do dev work for pay) it's worthy spending a few of your coins on good tools. I stare at these tools all darn day, and they rarely if ever crash. I don't regret moving aw…

That's 2/3 of a minimal monthly salary in Bulgaria. While developers sure make much more than that (unless they are in public sector), it's still nowhere near the $100k/year starting salary you get in the Valley. And that's still EU, you can go further East...

When saying something is not expensive (few of your coins), consider that it might be just your situation where it's not expensive.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by rplnt »

gregmac wrote: post #84
wyqydsyq wrote: post #68

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The software is great but I would never buy it purely because of their business model. There is absolutely no reason DataGrip needs to be a subscription service. There aren't any ongoing costs for customers to use it. It should be a one-off purchase with optional support subscription, maybe requiring re-purchase at major version increments, not this bullshit where you need to maintain a subscription for a license on…

I used to think like this too, but I've since changed my mind and understand why they do this -- and it can even be beneficial for users. There's a few big problems with the old model: First, you have to define the difference between "major" and "minor" version. Users expect major versions to have some significant improvements or new features. What this means is as a developer, you have incentive not to release minor…

I don't disagree with your points, but you can still sell software in the buy once model and just keep it live. No need for major versions unless they are needed. So the only point remaining is "we get more money this way", and that's something one could not want to participate in.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by danellis »

dotjosh wrote: post #60
neosavvy wrote: post #57

How is no one talking about https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/ These guys actually fix their bugs. It works on every database known to humans, and also does nearly everything DBeaver appears to do.

This, it's incredible. Amongs many other things, it supports a lot of the navigation/refactoring features of all the other IntelliJ products.

Does it do anything the IntelliJ database plugin doesn't do?

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by huyphams »

dotdi wrote: post #134
013a wrote: post #66

I've used TablePlus before (Mac+Windows); its really good, and pretty affordable at a $60 one time charge. https://tableplus.io/

TablePlus is very nice and it supports NoSQL databases like Cassandra, CockroachDB, and Redis. It's Electron-based, so it is relatively heavyweight, but I like it a lot.

It is not Electron, it's native. The reason it's heavy because it contains the database drivers, some of them is hundreds of MBs (Oracle > 200MB).

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by creUsNa »

pedrocx486 wrote: post #99
40four wrote: post #89

I stared using Dbeaver a couple months ago, after looking around for an alternative to HeidiSQL on my Windows 10 laptop at work. Used HeidiSQl for a long time but got fed up with issues with it freezing or crashing, especially when switching DB connections. Dbeaver has been fantastic! Has some feautures Heidi didn't have, very stable & better looking UI. Thumbs up from me, definitely worth giving a try!

Nice to see someone that used HeidiSQL. I'm on the same boat. It feels like an abandoned project. I guess it's finally time to install DBeaver and say goodbye to Heidi.

>feels like an abandoned project

HeidiSQL feels like a finished product to me. Really no complaints at all and if you actually take a look at the commits, you'll see that the SINGLE developer puts in a whole lot of effort.

https://github.com/HeidiSQL/HeidiSQL/commits/master

The guy is great and calling the project abandoned is really not fair.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by hawski »

nerdponx wrote: post #93
meddlepal wrote: post #87

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Developers are hands down one of the cheapest group of customers to deal with. I've been shelling out for IntelliJ Ultimate for years because I want to support JetBrains. At this point I think I could actually get away with just the open source Community Edition, but it's worth paying them for the effort in my mind.

Is it common to buy your own tools in other skilled trades (when you aren't a freelancer)? I don't mind buying good software, but it feels weird for me to pay in order to make my employer more money. It's not like the productivity boost I get from buying Datagrip is going to get me a raise or a better job. That said, for software I use in my personal life I can and do pay, and I think we should all be more in the hab…

In many software jobs it's not possible to bring your own tools unless approved. Even if they are free and open source.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by eitland »

pjmlp wrote: post #133
thejosh wrote: post #109

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>good tools are worth paying for Not ALL tools need to be paid for.

Not all WORK needs to be paid for.

That is correct. Trivial example:

If I say I'll do some work for free the we can assume you don't need to pay for it.

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