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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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post #56

I'm concerned about the privacy of this service. Do company employees have (or are able to get) access to users' private data? Is there any data mining in use?

They use FullStory, which probably means all employees can see your data if they wanted to. There's no option to remove it, as far as I can tell.

You can use an ad blocker to block FS.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#142

There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text/Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, te…

The "quality" feeling of sublime app for me is majorly undermined by the constant nagging popups to pay for it. so many other services I happily pay for and somehow sublime has made me not want to pay for their services.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#143
post #92
post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

There's a reason nobody really does this: there's just no money in it. Nylas mail is a good example of this: it offered the ability to self-run it and pay them for the license, but nobody really did. I wonder what they would need to charge to make it feasible? $1000 a year? It makes me pretty sad, but it's just such a distraction for a company of Notion's size and stage.

Bitwarden offers self-hosting as one of their paid perks (Docker image and documentation included), in addition to a free tier. It may not be viable as the only business model, but I appreciate that they cater to the small number of people that will make use of it and I imagine the token of goodwill does something for the product as a whole.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#144
post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

It looks like they use FullStory, so employees can probably see everything you're doing. I'd be surprised if they were recording without ever watching the recordings.

(FullStory records what you do in your browser. It records all DOM elements, so all your data is being recorded and sent to a 3rd party.)

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#145
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a reason nobody really does this: there's just no money in it. Nylas mail is a good example of this: it offered the ability to self-run it and pay them for the license, but nobody really did. I wonder what they would need to charge to make it feasible? $1000 a year? It makes me pretty sad, but it's just such a distraction for a company of Notion's size and stage.

Well, then we should create open-source analog of notion. I actually was itching wondering what could I create in OSS realm. Probably will have a look at this task :)

That seems to be pretty hard. I just finished a long search for an Open Source one-page markdown editor (no split windows for preview and editing): the closest I could find was an editor called MarkText but even that doesn’t have half the functionality of Notion or Dropbox Paper. It’s hard to compete with fully funded and devoted teams.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#146

I'm a big Notion fan. Use it for everything in my life, both work and personal. Here's a screenshot of my Notion homepage: https://twitter.com/benln/status/1034475232445181952 I also made this site for people to share their Notion pages: http://notionpages.com You can use that to get a better sense of use cases for Notion.

I see that your site only includes screenshots of Notion pages. Have you considered asking people to share Markdown exports of their pages as well?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#147

Hmm, I cannot seem to create an account without sharing my Google contacts; which I see no need to do and it's needless friction. I get into a loop of clicking checkbox "I don't want to share my Google contacts", then being rerouted back to login page and requested approval to share my contacts. Pricing wise, I wish these types of apps didn't have such a steep escalation as soon as I want to share. $4 for individual,…

Note: Notion's free plan actually provides unlimited users. But it only allows 1000 "blocks" (a heading, paragraph, file etc. counts as a block), so I imagine two users sharing notes would run out of space fast.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#148

Hmm, I cannot seem to create an account without sharing my Google contacts; which I see no need to do and it's needless friction. I get into a loop of clicking checkbox "I don't want to share my Google contacts", then being rerouted back to login page and requested approval to share my contacts. Pricing wise, I wish these types of apps didn't have such a steep escalation as soon as I want to share. $4 for individual,…

If you install a native app, doesn't it completely have you by the balls anyhow?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#149
post #126

I really, really want something like this as a desktop, fully native app, for personal use, and maybe with Groove-like peer to peer sync for small, closed groups.

> Groove-like peer to peer sync

This guy gets it.

Groove is one of my favorite examples of the damage done by Microsoft in the 90's. That product would STILL be useful today, 20 years later. I still wonder: Did Ozzie make the product just to get acquihired?

Is there anything that does this out there? EDIT: Now that I think about it, maybe OneNote does this in the background.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#150
post #39

For me, Notion replaced Evernote and I haven't looked back. Three features that have been particularly useful for personal productivity are 1) explicit support for Kanban board-ing tasks and similar to-do management 2) collapsible blocks 3) substantially smoother linking to, or embedding, notes within notes Notion is just as sleek as Evernote for small independent notes, but these two features allow Notion to scale m…

I hard-swapped to Notion from Evernote about a ~month ago. The Markdown support is excellent, and I really like:

- The "database" type that give a table view over child pages has been great for organizing recipes. I can quickly filter by {protein, core ingredients, cooking time, etc}

- The same again for blog posts

- Free-form writing for talks & other notes

- Shared to-do lists, which I used for organizing an apartment move w/ my partner

- Search works great - across titles, labels and document content - with a quick Ctrl+P.

- The web-app is fantastic. The Electron app on Windows is solid, although sometimes takes a while to sync after being minimized for a while.

Being able to export everything into a reasonable format was a requirement for me, and they've had that for a while. I'm OK with having "some" element of lock-in for the convenience, provided I can get my data out in a structured format. There's _always_ a risk something might be deprecated or shutdown.

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