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Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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>Google’s Vision API doesn’t even flag one of the images as violating

We have used AWS's Rekognition API for moderation in our dating platform for over 200,000 images per month. As far as nudity detection is concerned; Rekognition performs optimally.

I tested it against the Hell Girl image by TB Choi & it detects the nudity[1] & also detects the weapons under general Object/scene detection[2].

But I would warn against using Rekognition for anything related to gender as it is very biased and would behave indifferently towards people with colored skin. I have raised concerns about the bias in the Rekognition data set with AWS team & also other media outlets have covered it at length.

With that being said, I feel sad that we are in a state where such beautiful art should be moderated where as applications exploiting children are being given a free run.

[1]:https://imgur.com/a/FyJ5V56 [2]:https://imgur.com/a/LlfS7wO

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The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

>progression of society

how is reducing ourselves to animals running around naked with no impulse control "progress"? Is pleasure your only goal in life? The hard work and years of effort to make scientific breakthroughs sure as hell isn't fun, but the results are beneficial

>If we want to transition from a society of repression and suffering to one of liberation and bliss

"repression" is what makes society possible. If every one is free to do what they want and seek their own pleasure with no societal control, your only rule is might makes right.

Pretty much every religious rule you're criticizing was for the benefit of the weak. The strongest can just crack your skull and do as they please without any rules holding them back

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what's causing the downfall of western society: forgetting that we owe everything to Christianity.

That’s not my point. My point is that there’s plenty of crappy/failed cultures (tribes in jungles etc.) that allowed public nudity, but not a single successful one did. Maybe there’s something to it.

You are calling Germany a crappy failed jungle tribe?

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you wondered why extremely successful cultures (Christian, Muslim) have/had rules against public nudity? I had, and my (layman) conclusions were that public nudity creates too much sexual tension, and that is bad for stability of society. Hence, societies just function better without public nudity.

Without any evidence to back up your claim, this is simply a case of correlation != causation. If we follow your example, then the subjugation of women also leads to a better functioning society. Do you think that is also true? Going back to the nudity example, have you ever been to a topless beach? As an American who grew up in the religious south, my first trip to a topless beach in Europe was interesting for a bit…

> Without any evidence to back up your claim, this is simply a case of correlation != causation. If we follow your example, then the subjugation of women also leads to a better functioning society.

It's a bit stronger than that, because not only all successful cultures banned public nudity - also all cultures that tried public nudity failed.

Re: topless beach - going to a topless beach once a while vs living in a society where everybody around you is naked all the time are two different things. Imagine a workplace where your female colleagues (if you're a straight male) are naked. There's a reason why some of the best schools in the world still separate pupils by sex.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

I don't think sex is particularly messianic, but I also don't see why censoring and policing nominally adult content should be Google's business - literally or metaphorically. This is just one example from a growing list of questionable moral behaviour and outright abuse of monopoly power. The political reality is that Google has serious trust and credibility issues on many fronts. The more this kind of thing happens…

Especially when it's done in such a way that favors the bigger players - he gives two perfect examples in Instagram and Reddit - reddit especially is well known to have nearly as much pornography as the "tube sites" do, and one need only click "I am an adult" to view it.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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post #29

The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

it's likely an extension of dominant males restricting reproductive access to other males. Interestingly this is not a feature of every species, Bonobo monkeys have a matriarchal society and go quite a bit beyond grooming in order to maintain social relationships within their group.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

#149
Hmm looks to me that besides Google spying on us, it's even more dangerous that the only two platforms for mobile apps are censored by people with Disney morals. Or American puritan morals, whatever you call them.

There are tons of people now whose only internet device is a censored cell phone... looks like we need a third option that is not based in the US.

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