Thank heavens. Tumblr will be gone now.
Tumblr’s anti-porn algorithm is flagging basically everything as NSFW
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> Oath is desperate to put more ads on Tumblr, because they massively overpaid for it ($1 billion) and have been throwing money at it ever since (100s of millions). OK, but where is the problem with NSFW content (which is quite different from porn) for this? I know, I am German, where there is quite a different mentality with this respect (in my hometown I have even seen openly posted bills for a big porn exhibition…
Ask any marketer from a large brand (such a BMW or Adidas) -- their "brand safety" rules are very strict, and any kind of NSFW is a big no-no. Its not just hardcore porn.
Advertisers like sexiness but don't like porn because they want their customer base to stay frustrated and chase satisfaction via materialist comsumption. It's a blend of Puritan work ethic with soulless corporate exploitation.
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Well, you wouldn’t think so, but a lot of the anger on Tumblr the past few days has been that they’re destroying major communities (more than just NSFW; they deleted everything tagged with “chronic pain”, for goodness sake, and how is that relevant?), but leaving all the Nazis alone.
Deleting "chronic pain" posts makes sense if Tumblr is trying to eliminate drug-related posts with as much cleverness and grace as the porn purge. (Chronic is uncommon slang for marijuana.)
Chronic pain is also closely link with opiod abuse.
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#144I wouldn't label the algorithm as anti-porn. I'd label it "how to lose user base and drive the company to a hole" algorithm. It's not likely that it detects actual porn, it's basically failing miserably and the result is abandonment. That's what you get when you want to be PC and yet another "me too, I do cool stuff too" company. There are lessons to be learned here, and for that - thank you Tumblr :)
> That's what you get when you want to be PC I don't understand this statement. Tumblr's user base, at least the portion who disagree with the site operators on this, are usually the ones accused of being “politically correct”?
Politics wakes strange bedfellows. There is no single coherent definition of acceptable behavior. All corners raise hell for what they consider unnacceptable. PC isn't exclusively left-wing.
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You know what, it's a great idea to both reduce usage and create a terrible black market that brings far more harm than the original problem . Regulating vice is a very dangerous road to travel on. Your good intentions pave the path to hell.
At least we have a decent argument here. That regulating something might lead to even worse consequences. Then the discussion should be on which is worse, a world where it is made illegal, or a world where it is regulated, or a world where it is unregulated. Saying that regulating or making illegal something is bad is itself is a terrible argument.
How is pornography and prostitution different from homosexuality and marriage, that justifies making some wrong but not the others?
One could argue that Homosexuality is a genocide against the whole species, and marriage is degrading to the person made a slave to their own home.
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What? That's a huge stretch. Prostitution, for one, has been common in pretty much every culture throughout history, so I don't know what you think we're "degrading" from.
Are we just going to pretend that christian morality (in the general sense) doesn't exist and lots of people don't follow that morality? I don't see how that's a stretch unless you pretend that the morality of whole swathes of people are not valid because you have another set of morals. It's not a huge stretch at all.
Perhaps Christianity is the degradation of society. The United States was founded with an explicit attempt to get religion out of government, until the Great Awakening gave a rebirth to a cancer in our democracy. Even conservative Republicans like the Reagan/Bush team were terrified of the influence of the radical Christian movement.
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> I know plenty of fat people who eat three times a day and are obsessed with food. You're taking the analogy in the wrong direction. The point is that the person who is trying to stop eating is obsessed with food, not that "people who eat three times a day are never obsessed with food". The point is that sex is a part of life, and trying to stifle pornography and prostitution is as misguided and counterproductive as…
I don't buy your analogy at all. I think a sex obsessed culture is a result of an overly sexualized media. And it's not like I'm saying ban sex. I'm saying ban pornography and prostitution, which are abuses of sex.
Again, you're making circular arguments in order to claim that pornography and prostitution are bad. You can't reasonably make these claims without also arguing that we should ban alcohol because Prohibition led to illegal smuggling runs and all sorts of crime. Prostitution is illegal, therefore it leads to human trafficking, therefore it should be illegal? How are you going to have rampant human trafficking in a transparent system that requires brothels to have licenses, undergo inspections, and empower their employees to report unfair/unsafe/unsavory business practices?
You also need to leave out your personal opinions about sex when it comes to this discussion. I noticed that you previously mentioned that one of the reasons women turn to pornography is because they are "out of options". That's not your decision to make. If an adult makes a personal choice to turn to pornography, it's not your place to go "but that's unsavory to me, let me protect you by making that profession illegal". You're imposing your own negative views of sex on everyone else. If you think participating in pornography is inherently degrading, you don't have to do it!
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#148I'm glad Tumblr existed (not just for porn) but I hope this kills them. What a huge stab in the back to their community, it should not go unpunished.
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Millions of people believing something does not automatically make that thing correct. "Prostitution is a sign of the degradation of society" is a claim that requires evidence. I'm happy to hear whatever evidence you have. "Lots of other people think so" is not evidence. Given that prostitution has existed in pretty much every historical culture we've been able to study, I'd like to know when and where the society th…
Ask a whore, is she treated kindly by all her johns? Is she respected by everyone? And are childless, unmarried women depressed and unwanted? Migrant labor is not a sign of degradation either, but it leads to many to disrespect others in increasing fashions, where men are more likely to abuse their power over others.
Sure, there are a lot of labor/social issues around prostitution. We should try to fix those instead of sweeping them under the rug as we currently do.
That's irrelevant to the claim "prostitution is a sign of the degradation of society."
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I know what they meant, I'm confused at the accusation of it being politically correct.
You're not confused, and you felt the irony in my post. I wrote it's trying to be PC, and I didn't touch base upon what PC actually means - it's a broad term, different in everyone's eyes. Yes, Tumblr is bowing down to someone's standards, I called that PC, you are bothered by that statement - let's agree we disagree but you got the big picture and that's what matters.
That's fair, tumblr is very much being politically correct in that sense. I'm just so used to it being a right-wing insult against basically anything leftist.