Linus Torvalds announces Linux (1991) • Hacker News Board

Re: Linus Torvalds announces Linux (1991)

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Post by rconti » Fri, Nov 02, 2018, 2:57 PM UTC

raldi wrote: post #74

rconti wrote: post #71

I remember when I first installed Linux and was trying to find my way around (1994ish) and I couldn't help but feel hopelessly behind, like everybody had way more experience than I did, and knew way more than I did. Funny thing was, of course, that WAS true at the time, but it wasn't a reason not to do it. Let that be a lesson to anyone who hasn't learned the lesson themselves yet!

This is a great example of the Inspection Paradox, mentioned on HN earlier this week: https://allendowney.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-inspection-para...

This is great! Thank you!

Re: Linus Torvalds announces Linux (1991)

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Post by mygo » Fri, Nov 02, 2018, 5:43 PM UTC

city41 wrote: post #53

drinchev wrote: post #23

Although I’ve read this probably a dozen times. What I think about this today, as I’m about to reviel my next project is that it’s so crazy how things evolved for open source. Nowadays people compete with companies and having an announcment like this usually includes : - website explaining as a pitch what is better about your software - ready to use examples and templates to support your claim - branding with a logo…

It's very common now for a brand new project that's not even at a raw alpha quality to have a fancy logo. It feels like priorities can get out of whack sometimes.

Some would argue that you should be trying to market what isn’t ready yet, to see if people are actually interested. What’s wrong with having a logo to let people know you’re serious about the project and that if it gains traction it has less of a chance of being yet another abandoned github repo?

Re: Linus Torvalds announces Linux (1991)

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Post by city41 » Fri, Nov 02, 2018, 8:26 PM UTC

mygo wrote: post #142

city41 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very common now for a brand new project that's not even at a raw alpha quality to have a fancy logo. It feels like priorities can get out of whack sometimes.

Some would argue that you should be trying to market what isn’t ready yet, to see if people are actually interested. What’s wrong with having a logo to let people know you’re serious about the project and that if it gains traction it has less of a chance of being yet another abandoned github repo?

Yeah, that is fair. I think it depends on how you look at it. For me when I see a very early project with a shiny logo it feels to me like the author is more interested in getting popular than building something. But maybe I'm just jaded.

Re: Linus Torvalds announces Linux (1991)

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Post by alexis_fr » Fri, Nov 02, 2018, 9:18 PM UTC

outside1234 wrote: post #58

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #56

Such a humble announcement. I miss these kinds of projects. Most new projects today (by individuals or otherwise) are usually "best of", "world changing", "ground shaking", emoji filled nonsense, usually biting more than the developer(s) can handle, causing a buggy mess.

To be clear, Linux was definitely a buggy mess at the beginning and definitely more than Linus could handle, but they got through that by building community around fixing all of that.

More than he could handle? “I’ve already ported bash and gcc and it seems to work”. Who, even today, would even dare trying to do so much work in a few months?

Re: Linus Torvalds announces Linux (1991)

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Post by alexis_fr » Fri, Nov 02, 2018, 9:22 PM UTC

squarefoot wrote: post #80

ganeshkrishnan wrote: post #30

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"We are disrupting the AI blockchain cannabis industry using state of the art AR/VR technology"

Obligatory link to one of the many corporate bullshit generators around, though this one creates entire documents and not just sentences. Just in case someone needs one :) https://lurkertech.com/corpspeak/

Does anyone know the video of an entrepreneur at a conf who nailed the startup pitch language and levers? I’ve been looking for it for quite some time, I don’t know the name, it was a 5-minute pitch between sessions.

Re: Linus Torvalds announces Linux (1991)

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Post by kp297 » Sat, Nov 03, 2018, 8:09 AM UTC

mikekchar wrote: post #119

dr_teh wrote: post #50

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Somewhere in a cavern full of sandals, a Stallmanu is quietly weeping.

I really dislike this snarky comment, but rather than down vote it, I thought I'd give an alternate view. I was around at the time that Linux was born. I remember the HURD. I had done some work on Mach while I was in university and I was hugely interested in working on the HURD. I sent email to MIB and essentially received a reply "We don't need you kid". But this is the way it was at the time. People working on GNU…

Thanks for sharing this. Awesome story and really gives context to the whole thing.

Re: Linus Torvalds announces Linux (1991)

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Post by ohithereyou » Mon, Nov 05, 2018, 10:38 PM UTC

Hydraulix989 wrote: post #113

ohithereyou wrote: post #68

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As a developer the company can have whatever view of itself it cares to have as long as my paycheck clears.

Most engineers care about equity potential. You don't make it in the Valley on base salary alone.

This is why I don't work in the Valley and am only listed in entries in the Who's Hiring list that are full time remote or outside of the Valley.