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This meme is originally based on the idea that not all people have an inner voice, and the supposition that people without an inner voice may be less likely to introspect and think critically. I think the ban is a little ridiculous and likely has more to do with it's origin on a so called "far right" website than anything else.
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Twitter decided trying to get people to not vote by spreading the wrong election date crosses the line. There's not much satire in spreading the wrong election date. I don't think it's ridiculous at all.
You avoided my direct question. Most of the accounts in question did not spread the wrong election date.
I'll take your word that most of the accounts in question did not spread the wrong election date. I guess Twitter saw that some were, and assessed that the accounts were part of some 'campaign' (because they're similar in appearance, creation date, etc.) and basically judged every account in that 'campaign' as one.
To answer your question, if I were Twitter and I suspected all the accounts were being operated by the same small group of people, then yes I would punish all the accounts including the ones that hadn't yet carried out voter suppression tactics.
If I saw they were posting very similar content, I'd suspect the accounts that hadn't spread the wrong election date were soon going to and not wait until they all did to get rid of them.
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Do you think: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/17/business/17NPC/17... looks like a source of trustworthy information?
I guess Twitter took a zero-tolerance stance against voter suppression campaigns, whether the accounts involved are clearly satirical or not. They just flat out don't want people using their platform to spread the wrong election date, even if spreading the wrong election date is just 'trolling' or 'satire' or 'expressing my opinion on the liberals' to some. Again, I don't find that stance ridiculous.
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To me, the real explanation for a lot of this bizarre nonsense is because journalists are spending all day on Twitter which in reality isn't the real world it's technically just a very popular internet forum with a few famous users and they've begun to not understand that what happens on the internet forum Twitter does not represent what's actually happening in the real world. This is how internet forum drama gets mi…
Indeed. When ~journalists~ spend their whole day on Twitter, it means their resolution of the world is incredibly minute. Think about the most significant events from 2005. If you're looking back at that resolution, the small day-to-day stuff gets filtered out. The signal to noise ratio of what's actually significant is pretty good. These journalists are literally involved in the minute to minute . They wouldn't even…
This is a pretty apt description for that entire group, really. Many people live exclusively in the consumer world and have largely abandoned foundations of society like building a family or participating in local community, and I think it manifests in the internet tribalism we see.
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For spreading incorrect election information. Plenty of far right twitter accounts, these where designed to get banned for publicity.
>far right twitter accounts Nazis are everywhere, after all. And wow is it just embarrassing to see this "incorrect election information" thing being touted here. If someone was actually convinced that the election was a day later because they believed an NPC Twitter account they have only themselves to blame.
You don’t read something say that false and ignore it. You ignore or remember something independent of it’s true and then latter when trying to recall something make an association. So you might recall Election Day, 7th, false or just Election Day, 7th.
As Election Day changes (2020 in on the 3rd) many people have a rather weak recall of the date so it’s easy for people to get confused.
PS: In terms of politics these Twitter accounts don’t actually have a liberal following so banning them helps republicans.
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You avoided my direct question. Most of the accounts in question did not spread the wrong election date.
Didn't mean to. I had assumed all the banned accounts did spread the wrong election date. I'll take your word that most of the accounts in question did not spread the wrong election date. I guess Twitter saw that some were, and assessed that the accounts were part of some 'campaign' (because they're similar in appearance, creation date, etc.) and basically judged every account in that 'campaign' as one. To answer you…
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Harmful? "a few of the accounts started posting misleading information about the midterm elections, including encouraging liberals to vote on Nov. 7". Yes.
Golly, this is so "show me the man and I'll find you the crime" going on here. Are liberals actually too stupid to know when the vote is?
High turnout tends to favor Democrats, so they are less motivated to engage in this particular kind of election fraud. I don't think that makes them smarter or dumber.
One thing I really like about Twitter is that you can choose to follow who you want. If you don't want to see memes making fun of you, just don't follow accounts that post/retweet these memes. It's sad that Twitter is banning satire accounts. I'm against all censorship of lawful speech, and condemn Twitter and any social media platform that participates in this kind of censorship.
And this is really at the root of the entire culture war. It used to be 'hey, that person said something stupid', lol ok what an idiot, anyway moving on to what we were doing' Now instead it's 'hey that person said something stupid, I need to share it to 5000 followers to show just how stupid they are and how virtuous I am for pointing out that it's stupid, hey hey hey people look look look I'm resisting the stupid l…
I think we absolutely must address both problems somehow, but I also think that the movement of the offensive tendencies toward their respective extreme is much more damaging and more directly at fault for most of the current breakdown of human interaction. If person A mocks person B and implies that they should be lynched, and person B punches person A, they have both crossed the lines of reason on their positions (A: offensive, B: defensive), but boy am I not overly worried about B's behavior in context (that's a broad analogy, and a representation of my perspective rather than a universal example - it's not a comparison to the article's subject, which is a much more grey example of hatred vs reaction).
Of course, people will always see their group as reasonable and "the other" as unreasonable, especially when the "groups" are so broad that there's no room to stand outside and look in. It's all about as subjective as can be. Unfortunately, that doesn't make the practical outcome of such subjective interpretation any less concrete or unavoidable. I'm not sure what will end up causing this to deescalate, since both sides are utterly dug in.
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It confuses me, because "don't take things at face value" and "don't just follow a script" is, well, postmodernism. It's also anticapitalism. It's also a commentary about peoples reverence of traditional gender roles and religions. Actually, I totally fail to see why it's a conservative meme at all, unless it's being repeated without any attempt to consider broader implications.
> I totally fail to see why it's a conservative meme at all It's not a conservative meme. 4chan trolls != conservatives != The Right != Republicans != ... Almost nothing fits neatly into a bipolar spectrum of "us vs them" and 4chan culture is mostly about being where the normal people don't want to go. On /b/ you can find posts complaining about Jews controlling the economy, trans people swapping pictures, memes abou…