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This is the point at which you begin to realize the author is a bit of a jerk.
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Breaking promises is considered unethical in most cultures, not just in silicon valley. Maybe "walking all over you" is an overstatement, but an egregious thing that has happened to you doesn't make what happened to the OP less bad. I've heard this is standard behavior for google - completely disregarding what an applicant wants to work on and putting them instead on a project chosen by the hiring committee. Consider…
You've heard that, huh? HC doesn't pick your job, they decide whether or not to hire you. Hence the name. At Google it's typically trivially simple to switch teams (this article notwithstanding), so teams don't recruit and hire independently like happens in many companies. So after a hire is approved, they have to be matched up with a team. Teams decide whether or not a hire is appropriate for their team, and candida…
So, what number of teams can a typical candidate choose from? Compared to the total number of teams hiring? I guess the typical scenario is that a few teams express interest and then you can choose one of them, which is not much different from just "congratulations, this is your new team".
> At Google it's typically trivially simple to switch teams
How simple is trivially simple? Does the new team have to have sufficient budget/a vacancy? What kind of selection process is there if you are not the only one who wants to transfer to that team? What about your old team? What do you do with your responsibilities at the current project? Can you transfer immediately after you've been hired?
Controversial opinion here. I know that exaggerating and complaining is a surefire way to get clicks, but it's hard to take the author's criticisms seriously when he complains about so many different things. Some as minor as the noogler orientation. Others as petty as putting down colleagues who haven't worked as designers before. Regarding the main event in question: I like that Google allows people to party in the…
Yep. Seems like a smart guy, but overwhelmed with bitterness. Also a fair amount of irony from someone complaining about fair treatment, like: "Let’s call him Greg because his real name is just as vanilla"
Also shows a complete lack of introspection or self awareness that he'd post and promote this drivel and think it makes him look GOOD! Lol. Career suicide imo. If I was considering hiring him and googled him and came across this writing, I'd nope out so fast.
This is one of the most unprofessional things I've ever read. Giving callouts to people who passed you up for a hire is just... unacceptable.
Yes, very odd. I suppose it’s an attempt to suggest the employer made a mistake passing on them, but the act of calling out itself demonstrates they might have made a good call.
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You've heard that, huh? HC doesn't pick your job, they decide whether or not to hire you. Hence the name. At Google it's typically trivially simple to switch teams (this article notwithstanding), so teams don't recruit and hire independently like happens in many companies. So after a hire is approved, they have to be matched up with a team. Teams decide whether or not a hire is appropriate for their team, and candida…
Exactly the same at Ibm, eBay and jp Morgan when I worked there. There were even programs to let you try out new projects before you commit to them. All it took was the dev to say that he preferred working on a specific project. Some teams even have further internal hiring processes from the talent pool. I am not even sure OP knows that team switching was possible and how internal recruiting works for large organizat…
> All it took was the dev to say that he preferred working on a specific project. Some teams even have further internal hiring processes from the talent pool.
I'm not sure if I read that correctly, but don't these two sentences contradict each other? Of course some positions will be more coveted than others, so additional processes are necessary to choose from all the people interested in the position. But it means that just saying "I prefer to work on X" is not nearly enough to transfer (of course it isn't).
Controversial opinion here. I know that exaggerating and complaining is a surefire way to get clicks, but it's hard to take the author's criticisms seriously when he complains about so many different things. Some as minor as the noogler orientation. Others as petty as putting down colleagues who haven't worked as designers before. Regarding the main event in question: I like that Google allows people to party in the…
It was a hard lesson for me to learn in the past: if you care wildly more than the people around you -- so much that you work late into the night while your grandmother is dying and your coworkers are pounding drinks with their counterparts at a competitor -- you'll just end up really hurt and frustrated and they'll all think that you are the problem. The author seems like the kind of person that I'd love to do a 3-p…
This so much this.
It’s so hard to find a tribe of passionate driven people who care crazy amounts about their vision and purpose.
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and they'll all think that you are the problem. Agreed.
The thing is that often they are right. It's almost literally crazy to me that he wouldn't just try to reschedule the meeting and that he would work when his grandma was dying. It's not working long hours that's a problem but in my experience it often correlates with people who don't work well in a team (which this guy seems like a perfect example of).
There are some things you can say about the style of writing but... There is stuff here that resonates and accurately describes downsides of SV life. Just because "it's like that everywhere" doesn't mean we shouldn't aspire to better. Just because we don't like some aspect of this guy's communication style doesn't mean we should dismiss him.
If you're reading, Morgan, don't despair at all the people displaying needless aggression in this thread.
Publicly criticizing people & companies you've worked with because you haven't seen eye to eye with them... Is this the sort of person you'd want to work with or hire to work for you? If it were a company that didn't pay you or were doing something unethical etc then fair enough - blow that whistle... but as far as I can see this is just someone with a chip on their shoulder and a bruised ego who can't move on.
I would never, ever hire someone who went on a giant public character assassination of his colleagues and dumped all the day-to-day insider baseball to the world. Call-outs to people who didn't hire him. Jesus, wtf? I don't care how dysfunctional his experience was, I don't care how much of a star he might be, I don't need that kind of worry in my life, and it's hard to imagine someone who would. Be interested to kno…