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Post by chasedehan »

bhandziuk wrote: post #118
SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #69

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Amazon and ebay are good examples of sites that have made very slow, incremental changes over the years.

I don't know, Amazon seems pretty bloated at times. The page may look similar to old Amazon pages but there is just so much happening I'm overwhelmed. "Related Items" " People who bought this also looked at", multiple sections of "Sponsored Items", "Customers Also Bought", "Frequently Bought together". Sigh. Just show me this product and the information about it (specs, reviews, questions [and don't show me any quest…

The overwhelming is especially prevalent on AWS - I get super confused every time I do work there. So many buttons, services, etc. It's for that reason primarily that I prefer using GCP as it is kept a bit more similar.

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Post by mgiannopoulos »

joatmon-snoo wrote: post #134
gfodor wrote: post #131

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This might be the most meta comment chain on HN.

This entire thread itself is pretty meta :)

I noticed dreamcompiler! And apparently there is a limit to the nesting of replies (which is why i’m replying to the parent comment) ?!

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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Post by vinceguidry »

nerflad wrote: post #112
vinceguidry wrote: post #82

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I like Quora for this. The threat of a BNBR ding is eternal and the panopticon unwavering. As a result every interaction becomes an opportunity for reflection.

My version of being Nice and Respectful tends to skew toward "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". Which topics still have a good experience on Quora? I find the quality of the discussion, especially the quality of many of the questions themselves, to be quite low. They need more aggressive community moderation to filter out duplicates, miscategorizations and nonsense before potential a…

I don't follow topics, I follow people. I'll read anything by Thierry Etienne Joseph Rotty, Dima Vorobiev, Franklin Veaux, Jenny Hawkins, Alex Cooper, among others. Following topics just gravitates you towards the cesspool that any large internet community has.

I'm really careful about getting into discussions with people, particularly because I'm often operating in the atheism-theism debate. My default response, like you, is to not engage. When I do, I try to pick my words carefully. The second the interaction turns hostile, I'll report if warranted but in any case immediately disengage.

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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Post by newman8r »

jermaink wrote: post #13

HN is a perfect example of an classic, evergreen product. Or call it a crocodile product, as crocodiles are somewhat location-loyal. Are there more examples of products that did (on purpose) not change significantly? If you consider the sentiment on the recent GMail redesign, Facebook, .. it often appears that product managers are the only ones that want to change the product and its appeal. I think Reddit also had t…

https://www.erowid.org doesn't seem to have changed much in the past 2 decades

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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Post by [deleted] »

nkrisc wrote: post #79
pavlov wrote: post #3

"Finished" is the right word. Apart from small UI tweaks it's still the same site as in 2007... And that's part of what makes HN great! I can't help but think that a team of Very Serious Expensive UX Professionals would have made a mess of HN thrice over by this time. (Can't you just imagine the 2010 rewrite in Java and GWT, and the 2014 redesign as an Angular SPA with sophisticated giant web fonts all over the place…

Hey now, as a Don't-Take-Myself-Too Serious Moderately-Well-Paid UX Professional much of my job is trying to get sites to something as simple as this one. I would do something about some of the text contrast here though. Maybe an additional form of feedback when editing a comment as well.

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Post by usrusr »

Bartweiss wrote: post #122
Insanity wrote: post #57

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cache links sounds like an okay idea. OTOH, the avatars sounds like a horrible idea to me. I'm neutral on the markdown one, it wouldn't be too bad but it might end up making comments look like mini-articles rather than just comments.

I'm opposed to markdown for that reason. It's a bit of a shame that the existing formatting isn't aligned to markdown syntax, and I think lots of people don't know the code trick. But otherwise, I'm grateful to not have posts using headers, multipart essays with horizontal rules, or that "every word a hyperlink" style that people use when they want to intensify a statement by implying it's densely sourced or describi…

> but HN has always felt to me like a display of how working within constraints can improve quality.

Definitely in the same boat. When I started reading through this rare opportunity for legitimate meta discussion I was about to advertise the missing vote direction indication on the unvote button. Because it's so easy to hit the wrong direction on mobile and that would be an elegant way to fix it.

But now I think that even this might be more feature than bug: knowing that there is a chance that it might have been just clumsy upvoters makes it easier to do the right thing when getting downvoted.

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Post by jacquesm »

asaph wrote: post #8
pavlov wrote: post #3

"Finished" is the right word. Apart from small UI tweaks it's still the same site as in 2007... And that's part of what makes HN great! I can't help but think that a team of Very Serious Expensive UX Professionals would have made a mess of HN thrice over by this time. (Can't you just imagine the 2010 rewrite in Java and GWT, and the 2014 redesign as an Angular SPA with sophisticated giant web fonts all over the place…

I for one would like to see some improvements. Here is my wishlist: 1. Markdown support 2. More profile capabilities. e.g. avatars, vanity URLs, link to your GitHub, Twitter, Stack Overflow, blog, etc. 3. Automatically create cache link for articles in case their hosts go down after being linked from HN. 4. Revision history for comments.

Here is mine:

- cap karma at 1000 points

- get rid of the leaderboard

Other than that I wouldn't change a thing.

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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Post by jacquesm »

Scarblac wrote: post #20
jermaink wrote: post #13

HN is a perfect example of an classic, evergreen product. Or call it a crocodile product, as crocodiles are somewhat location-loyal. Are there more examples of products that did (on purpose) not change significantly? If you consider the sentiment on the recent GMail redesign, Facebook, .. it often appears that product managers are the only ones that want to change the product and its appeal. I think Reddit also had t…

In the Netherlands an early very (1998) popular web page is http://www.startpagina.nl , and it's still popular with non-tech savvy people. http://www.nu.nl (1999) is the country's most popular news page, http://www.marktplaats.nl (1999) the most popular Craig's list / Ebay equivalent. They have all tweaked their UI over two decades if you look closely but make sure they look more or less the same as ever. Actually Te…

MP got reworked extensively, they did keep their colorscheme.
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