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Re: Microsoft suspends development of touch-friendly UWP Office apps for Windows

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Post by kartickv » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 4:03 AM UTC

vezycash wrote: post #10

Ms is my favorite tech company. They, however are their own worst enemy. They produce many awesome but crippled stuff - like honey stained with drops of bird shit. UWP's appx format is awesome - one click installation, sandbox, clean uninstallation, potential for diff updates. All these have nothing to do with portability. But they crippled it by making it store only until recently... Too late. One reason I hate usin…

Since MS is no stranger to regularly building new frameworks, they should build one that is natively supported in Windows, with no compromises relative to other APIs like WPF or Win32, while also supporting macOS, iOS and Android as targets. Some functionality that's not supported in iOS, say, like full multitasking, should degrade gracefully.

Think of it as a hybrid app framework that also is the first-party framework on one OS. No one has done that so far, and it would be interesting to see someone try.

That will give developers a solid incentive to use this API, unlike others like WPF, Silverlight, WinRT, etc. The benefit for MS will be that Windows gets the best possible experience, rather than a least-common denominator one, as with Electron.

Re: Microsoft suspends development of touch-friendly UWP Office apps for Windows

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Post by pjmlp » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 11:26 AM UTC

scarface74 wrote: post #137

pjmlp wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A little secret, laptops and 2-1 convertibles are desktops as well, while being mobile.

If we want to be pedantic, a desktop could be considered mobile too since you can pick it up. But in the real world when people talk about “mobile software” everyone knows that people are talking about iOS and Android. No one is chasing after the Windows software market, it’s been a diminishing platform for the past decade.

In the real world people are working on laptops, while using iOS and Android mostly to consume content, play games, browse web and show plane tickets.

When they actually become a match to laptops and 2-1 convertibles, maybe.

And there Chromebooks are no where to be seen outside US school system, iPad Pros are mostly a gimmick in rich countries and Android 2-1 are basically phone apps with keyboard.

Re: Microsoft suspends development of touch-friendly UWP Office apps for Windows

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Post by scarface74 » Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 3:22 AM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #142

scarface74 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we want to be pedantic, a desktop could be considered mobile too since you can pick it up. But in the real world when people talk about “mobile software” everyone knows that people are talking about iOS and Android. No one is chasing after the Windows software market, it’s been a diminishing platform for the past decade.

In the real world people are working on laptops, while using iOS and Android mostly to consume content, play games, browse web and show plane tickets. When they actually become a match to laptops and 2-1 convertibles, maybe. And there Chromebooks are no where to be seen outside US school system, iPad Pros are mostly a gimmick in rich countries and Android 2-1 are basically phone apps with keyboard.

I am not saying that people aren’t using desktops to do work. What I’m saying that relatively few companies are putting money into writing desktop software. The jobs are limited compared to writing web based software.

If I ever got back into desktop software, it would be highly specialized low level C/C++ code and not WPF/Sharepoint/UWP software.