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Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by pfranz »

komali2 wrote: post #115
pfranz wrote: post #73

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I was seriously looking at Linux laptops last year and ended up begrudgingly getting another Macbook Pro. Here's my perspective when I looked at Thinkpads; There's a series: X, T, P, and A. I really hate when companies do this (I also think Apple does this a bit too much). "Powerful mobile workstations" or "Renowned professional tools" doesn't really help me narrow things down. Trying to seek these out in person, ret…

Right, I see where you're coming from. RE: connectivity, I think I'm misunderstanding you here, but the latest x1s do charge via USB-c, and come with 2 USBc ports and 2 usbA ports... and a headphone jack ;) I just checked the laptop I'm typing this on to confirm this.

I was looking almost a year ago so I wasn't looking at gen6. Also, it may have had 2 usb-c ports (one of a very few if not the only)...so I might have been mistaken about that, but eliminated it for other reasons. On that topic of headphones (afaik all Macbook Pros still have headphone ports), Airpods improved the miserable experience of bluetooth headphones by a lot...but I feel like it's still 2/3rds to where it should be. It also still sucks during those times where you don't have them handy and need other options or the fact game consoles don't support them. It sucks that so many phone manufacturers followed Apple's lead, there.

I hope PC laptops keep getting better because I'll check them out again in 3-6 years when I look to buy another. I feel like the new laptop is worse than my previous one in a bunch of areas that Apple used to excel at; no LED when charging (I've already plugged it in to charge while the other end was not plugged into the wall), wake time is closer to what I'd expect from a cold boot with an SSD (around 10 seconds instead of 0-3), I really dislike the half-height arrow keys, and the camera has the exact same specs as my 2011 model.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by isostatic »

rwmj wrote: post #137
e12e wrote: post #105

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https://www.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macOS1013.pdf > 2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. A. Preinstalled and Single-Copy Apple Software License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, unless you obtained the Apple Software from the Mac App Store, through an automatic download or under a volume license, maintenance or other written agreement from Apple, you are granted a limited, non-exclusive li…

So what? You've paid for the OS you can run it wherever you want.

Depends on your jurisdiction's view of the legality of apple's terms of use

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by sli »

cma wrote: post #132
dogma1138 wrote: post #102

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It’s on the same level as IP theft of any kind since you cause some loss of revenue and investment, now what portion of piracy results in a financial loss is a different story but it’s not 0. Look at it this way if I steal your trade secrets and clone your product after you spent R&D money on it I’ve essentially “stolen” both a part of your revenue and your investment. Music, film and games cost money to develop and…

> since you cause some loss of revenue and investment Wouldn't leaving a bad review of a bad product be considered theft under this definition?

Yeah, I feel like that definition of theft would lead to some really awful legal precedents. If a family member has decided to buy some product, and I talk them out of it, I would be committing theft by that definition. At least in the US, that would run afoul of the First Amendment. The company can yell at me all they want or ban me from their services, but they could not legally get the police to arrest me for a bad review or for convincing a family member.

Of course, just like with piracy, it would not provable that the revenue was guaranteed in the first place. But companies would absolutely try and litigate over it anyway.

I suppose this discussion is unrelated to this thread, though.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by Semiapies »

ironjunkie wrote: post #6

I really don't get it. The biggest appeal of Apple is their wonderful hardware. I dislike MacOS and it has been worse over the last years. It seems to me that a Hackintosh is the worst of both worlds. If you spend that much time hacking around the hardware anyways, why not use Linux ?

Wonderful, but increasingly underpowered, hardware.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by JadeNB »

peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

> - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that

How does running the same software on a different machine do anything to address this?

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by nwhatt »

ageitgey wrote: post #122

I can tell you from experience that building a Hackintosh is a terrible idea for almost all people. I have no moral objection to it and I totally understand the motivation. Apple is completely failing to provide hardware that runs at a fraction of the performance you'd get from building a commodity $2500 AMD/Nvidia desktop even if you give Apple $7000 for a Pro model. Apple's platform especially sucks if you do anyth…

This was my experience as well. It reminded of running Gentoo Linux a long time ago. Awesome feeling of accomplishment, but not practical if you have a day job.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by alexktz »

peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

> If we lose general purpose computing to a world of app-store enabled iPad Pros and Windows Store-locked Surfaces, we will have lost something important I think.

Absolutely. Here, here.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by komali2 »

sbuk wrote: post #135
komali2 wrote: post #115

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Right, I see where you're coming from. RE: connectivity, I think I'm misunderstanding you here, but the latest x1s do charge via USB-c, and come with 2 USBc ports and 2 usbA ports... and a headphone jack ;) I just checked the laptop I'm typing this on to confirm this.

They also have a terrible spongy keyboard and a horrible trackpad and cost as much as the MacBook Pro.

Weird, I have only found review sites that laud the keyboard (even sites that don't really give the laptop a good rating for other reasons). At the very least, they can certainly handle a grain of sand better than a new MBP ;)

It could just be your subjective experience, though! Aint nobody can come between a person and their feelings.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by vthriller »

pkaye wrote: post #104
BillinghamJ wrote: post #23

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I think that's one of the key things about using Apple products. If you want to have a good time, you need to embrace the way Apple wants you to use the product. And then generally, you'll find that it really does "just work", most of their decisions were right and you can get on with just using the thing. For the more "power users" who prefer to customise things to a fine degree and make particular choices a typical…

Except for the multiple times in the past that Apple would update something and my laptop wifi would get flaky for months on end till the fixed it again. Yup "just works."

Re: wifi, I can also remember constant complaints and whining from NOC folks nearby a couple of years ago because they were regularly fiddling with Cisco AP devices configuration just because of all those iDevices that employees bought.
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