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Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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Re: Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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Define retention policies and explain you would keep IP addresses up to xxx months to ensure service operation/troubleshoot/etc. Prune the logs. There you have it.

"IP addresses are logged to ensure we can comply with requests from law officers"

Even then, you have to delete them at some point, b/c the retention policy has to specify duration.

Re: Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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Targeted advertising has become such a big deal, and implemented at such high cost, that I wonder if the trade off is even worth it now. I could imagine Apple or Samsung simply "sponsoring" Facebook for a week or month at a time with banners and messaging - tastefully done of course! - and how much less hassle that would all be, rather than aggregating millions upon millions of cookies and chasing people around the i…

Targeted advertising has always seemed pretty dumb, to me most advertising is done by Coke and their target is every where.

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It'd be great if companies offered a "buy back your privacy" subscription model. For the services I really don't want to stop using (Twitter ...) I'd definitely be using that.

https://gsuite.google.com/ A lot of people don't seem to know that GSuite is both usable (useful, even) and affordable (cheap!) even if you are a solo user. Here's a quick howto: 1. Go buy your own domain name (~$10/yr, https://www.gandi.net/ ). Make it something you like, something professional. This is for your personal email address. firstname@lastname is the most common pattern. I recommend everybody do this. Eve…

Where does it say that paying for GSuite means that Google stops invading your privacy? I can't find it, and can only assume the only difference is you don't see the ads.

Re: Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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The proceeding would be undertaken by the state and the companies might be fined.

All in all, GDPR reminds me of how legislation and regulation was constructed in USSR and now in Russia. The rules are such that it is practically impossibly to comply; it is then left to the powers-that-be to decide which ones of those in breach are investigated and prosecuted. It's the perfect setup for arbitrary and selective application of justice system to attack political opponents, dissidents etc.

Exactly how politicians like it

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No, but with the GDPR, they'd have more of a case, and it's easier to file a complaint. Whether that's a good or bad thing is a matter of perspective.

Would they have more of a case even when they direct the complaint to the wrong business?

Whether it's the right business or the wrong business would be something decided upon in court. The prosecution could make the argument that the business in question broke the law. If the defence does not present a strong case and the judge sides with the prosecution, the business could still be reprimanded, regardless of whether they feel it is just or not.

Re: Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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The proceeding would be undertaken by the state and the companies might be fined.

All in all, GDPR reminds me of how legislation and regulation was constructed in USSR and now in Russia. The rules are such that it is practically impossibly to comply; it is then left to the powers-that-be to decide which ones of those in breach are investigated and prosecuted. It's the perfect setup for arbitrary and selective application of justice system to attack political opponents, dissidents etc.

>The rules are such that it is practically impossibly to comply; it is then left to the powers-that-be to decide which ones of those in breach are investigated and prosecuted.

I'd not say they are impossible to comply at all, coming from a company extremely heavily impacted by the GDPR, with multiple divisions loosely connected (hence harder to ensure forgetfulness) and a lot of customer interaction. I do consider GDPR a very good tool/means to enforce some thought and discipline during development process.

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https://gsuite.google.com/ A lot of people don't seem to know that GSuite is both usable (useful, even) and affordable (cheap!) even if you are a solo user. Here's a quick howto: 1. Go buy your own domain name (~$10/yr, https://www.gandi.net/ ). Make it something you like, something professional. This is for your personal email address. firstname@lastname is the most common pattern. I recommend everybody do this. Eve…

Is GSuite better from a privacy perspective? It doesn't show ads in gmail, but I'm pretty sure they're still tracking you and feeding that into ads on youtube etc.

from the DPA that you can sign with Google with regard to GSuite:

> 5.2 Scope of Processing. > 5.2.1 Customer’s Instructions. By entering into this Data Processing Amendment, > Customer instructs Google to process Customer Personal Data only in accordance > with applicable law: (a) to provide the Services and related technical support; (b) as > further specified via Customer’s use of the Services (including the Admin Console > and other functionality of the Services) and related technical support; (c) as > documented in the form of the applicable Agreement, including this Data Processing > Amendment; and (d) as further documented in any other written instructions given > by Customer and acknowledged by Google as constituting instructions for purposes > of this Data Processing Amendment.

So no, they probably can't track and feed that into youtube ads, because it is not a cause that provides the service or support.

Afaik Google announced last year that they stopped processing GSuite account emails to a large degree.

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