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Oh, cool. I can finally fix the bug/feature that whenever someone replied to an email from me they got warned about profanity because of my last name :-)
Could be worse: you could have graduated Summa cum laude and have the store refuse to put that on your graduation cake! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/05/2...
Damn. The "bad" words have been sanitized. Seeing the programmers' frustrations as they appear in the comments enhances the experience when viewing old code like this.
Speaking of bad words, Eudora also used to have a rating system for emails you are about to send. Too many bad words? 3 red peppers. And it would ask you "Are you sure you want to send that?" Fun idea. We liked to try to make it look like the produce section at Fiesta.
While I was in college, during the summer of 2001, I did an internship at Qualcomm. I was surprised to discover that they used Eudora as their internal Email client, despite not having seen it still in use elsewhere for many years. Of course I found its UI frustrating enough (for reasons I barely remember now) that I wound up installing something else to use on my workstation.
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Why is POP3 horribly inefficient? Lack of an equivalent to the IMAP COMPRESS extension?
POP3 is only efficient if you download all mail to the client and immediately remove it from the server. But nobody does that, everyone leaves their mail on the server. Then everytime you synchronize the server has to go through all the mail it has to see what you don’t have, which is very inefficient if you have 10000 mails in your inbox, like most people have these days. It’s optimized for a usecase that doesn’t ex…
You seem to have a personal (!) problem with POP3. Why is that? Are you forbidden to use IMAP because of it? Are you forced to implement a POP3 server?
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Me too. With POP of course. Eudora supports IMAP but that's the path to the dark side.
Me too, and it's the main reason my Mac runs Snow Leopard. Some day that'll fail, and I'll probably end up running Sheepshaver in a browser tab or something.
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POP3 is only efficient if you download all mail to the client and immediately remove it from the server. But nobody does that, everyone leaves their mail on the server. Then everytime you synchronize the server has to go through all the mail it has to see what you don’t have, which is very inefficient if you have 10000 mails in your inbox, like most people have these days. It’s optimized for a usecase that doesn’t ex…
I for one use pop3 and am really content with it. I cannot bear the idea of keeping my personal mails on a remote server. And that of having to use a web interface to configure splitting rules via a web interface, unable to easily version control and undestructibly and easily test. You seem to have a personal (!) problem with POP3. Why is that? Are you forbidden to use IMAP because of it? Are you forced to implement…
What do you mean the only copy of all my mail is in some bizarro mail client specific proprietary database? Why can’t I also read my mail on my phone? I dropped my laptop in the toilet and now my mail is gone. Isn’t it on the server? Why can’t I use folders? Don’t you have backups?
No, your mail is gone, because you used a protocol designed for the 90s. It’s a great idea if you have a mail account with 10mb quota and you download your mail to a fixed, reliable workstation and you don’t mind if you lose it all if the disk crashes, it doesn’t happen that often. Not hardly as often as laptops getting stolen, Windows breaking itself and phones going bust.
I’m not sure why I need to have personal problems with your pet protocol to have an opinion on it, especially on one that stinks as much as POP3. It’s obsolete.
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POP3 is only efficient if you download all mail to the client and immediately remove it from the server. But nobody does that, everyone leaves their mail on the server. Then everytime you synchronize the server has to go through all the mail it has to see what you don’t have, which is very inefficient if you have 10000 mails in your inbox, like most people have these days. It’s optimized for a usecase that doesn’t ex…
I for one use pop3 and am really content with it. I cannot bear the idea of keeping my personal mails on a remote server. And that of having to use a web interface to configure splitting rules via a web interface, unable to easily version control and undestructibly and easily test. You seem to have a personal (!) problem with POP3. Why is that? Are you forbidden to use IMAP because of it? Are you forced to implement…
While I suspect I'm relatively uncommon in having four devices that I want to be in sync, wanting two or three devices -- computer, phone, and possibly work computer -- to be in sync probably isn't very uncommon at all.
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> The license you were forced to accept I didn't accept it. I'll try to get them to remove those terms, that appeals to me more than agreeing to legal terms I don't intend to abide by.
It's possible they have responded to this, because I now have these terms come up: Copyright (c) 2017, Computer History Museum. All rights reserved. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted (subject to the limitations in the disclaimer below) provided that the following conditions are met: Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this…
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I for one use pop3 and am really content with it. I cannot bear the idea of keeping my personal mails on a remote server. And that of having to use a web interface to configure splitting rules via a web interface, unable to easily version control and undestructibly and easily test. You seem to have a personal (!) problem with POP3. Why is that? Are you forbidden to use IMAP because of it? Are you forced to implement…
I have an iMac, a MacBook Pro, an iPad, and an iPhone, and I want to be able to access my email from any of them. POP3 is simply not designed to handle that situation gracefully. If a POP3 client is set to download email and delete it from the server, then the messages get "stuck" on whatever client happened to download it first; if it's set to keep copies of the emails on the server, then it pretty much becomes IMAP…
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I for one use pop3 and am really content with it. I cannot bear the idea of keeping my personal mails on a remote server. And that of having to use a web interface to configure splitting rules via a web interface, unable to easily version control and undestructibly and easily test. You seem to have a personal (!) problem with POP3. Why is that? Are you forbidden to use IMAP because of it? Are you forced to implement…
Clearly you’ve never had to do tech support for people that inadvertently chose POP3 because in many systems it’s still the default selection, along with the default behavior of deleting mails from the server as you fetch them. What do you mean the only copy of all my mail is in some bizarro mail client specific proprietary database? Why can’t I also read my mail on my phone? I dropped my laptop in the toilet and now…
Because you're trying to fight people that use it.
In another comment I write how I use it. Clearly you can lose mail with IMAP too. There is a reason we do backups. Also, people not knowing how to use it or you not liking to deal with these does not make a protocol obsolete.