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Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by sigi45 »

dpflan wrote: post #123
sigi45 wrote: post #115

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This is a general issue i have seen as well. We live in 2018 and there is no open source course for everything. Instead there are probably 10-30k universities who have similar courses and professors who give the same lecture every year. They get paid often enough by countries to create and do those courses. In germany most of our unversities are paid by all of us germans anyway. And what do you find online? Always th…

Have you seen this? Does this meet your criteria/have enough sufficient resources/curriculum? > http://datasciencemasters.org/

Nope, not at all.

I'm not looking for the next github page with collections of tons of different sites with different courses.

I still hope for one platform where all those smart people out there are working together to optimize learning.

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by domnomnom »

ithilglin909 wrote: post #7
jamestimmins wrote: post #5

I find it curious that there are so many courses for data-science related subjects, which superficially seem to cover the same material, and relatively few courses covering more traditional CS topics such as computer systems, networks, OS. I suppose it has to do with the market, but also feels like colleges are skating to where the puck is, rather than where it will be (or perhaps, where it could be).

I'm just curious -- where do you think the puck will be? I've had a number of younger acquaintances ask for career advice. Pursuing some kind of data science seems like an obviously smart direction now, but I've wondered if this, as well as traditional CS career paths, may be in danger of becoming over-saturated areas, now that everyone views them as sure paths to a job that pays well.

math is the secret weapon here. Cybersecurity, data science, programming

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by bagacrap »

master_yoda_1 wrote: post #130

I think this is a bad trend. These university make basic courses free to gain popularity and then ask for big money for their real courses. This is bad in two ways: 1) The people taking these courses do not learn much for the effort and time they spend. Also it gives them illusion that they know enough as they take course from big university. 2) Industry is already so confused in hiring, they hire by name. So even yo…

What a bleak world you must live in if all TV counts as a waste of time. Does that extend to other forms of drama? Literature? Entertainment?

Even if you believe it's pointless it's pretty clear it's no something everyone else "knows".

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by skinnymuch »

barry-cotter wrote: post #18
analognoise wrote: post #17

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Boot camps are stupid. Go to community college. It's ridiculously cheap, and the credits are worth something.

If you can learn skills that get you a job from a boot camp they’re not stupid. The fact that Lambda School and App Academy don’t get paid unless you get a job and they still exist suggests rather strongly that they get people jobs.

App Academy takes $5000 last i heard. The hype is that they take nothing though.

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by solarkraft »

JoshMnem wrote: post #128
tyu100 wrote: post #124

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I forget if its the Verge or some other popular podcast but they are always suggesting Apple just put together a fully open and accredited online university. The problem is that there are a lot of people getting paid a lot of money all over the world to work in post-secondary education whom control the keys to accreditation and whom have proven very resilient at resisting any optimization efforts.

Apple isn't open. Their stuff has tended to not work on Linux.

I don't see why one would need Apple to do it. A consortium would be much better and more likely.

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by gnulinux »

jwilbs wrote: post #140
cbHXBY1D wrote: post #129

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Or if you want to get experience with data science: Stats 134 (easy), CS188 (medium), CS189 (hard).

I personally thought Stats 134 was the hardest of those courses by far (though I took it under a visiting professor who was needlessly difficult). 188 was a breeze, and I believe the full course is offered for free on edx

CS 189 (with Sahai) (Machine Learning) was by far the hardest course I took in my life.

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by gnulinux »

cbHXBY1D wrote: post #129
gnulinux wrote: post #60

I'm a UC Berkeley alum. When I was there this was a course taken by humanity majors to learn some programming so that their Resume looks cooler. majority of STEM majors take CS 61A (SICP) or E7 (Programming in MATLAB). Just noting this as a context, this is not the class intended for CS majors; this : https://cs61a.org/ one is.

Or if you want to get experience with data science: Stats 134 (easy), CS188 (medium), CS189 (hard).

Meh, I disagree. CS 188 is not a very useful course. You can learn 188 material very quickly (i.e. reading Wikipedia for a couple hours) if you do well in CS170 and CS 189.

I think for data science: Stats 134, CS 189, EE 127, EE 126 are most useful (in this order). Of course, in order to do well in CS 189 you need to have a good background in probability which can either be CS 70/Math 55 (if very well understood), or Stats 134, or EE 126.

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by _ptgt »

itronitron wrote: post #74
meri_dian wrote: post #58

What exactly is Data Science? It seems like such an overused term and the value of the subject really gets diluted for me when I see charts in Tableau being offered as examples of "data science". What's the difference between, say, a Master's program in Computer Science where one studies machine learning and a Master's program in Data Science? Am I wrong for thinking the Data Science program weaker?

The CS program should focus more on data structures and algorithms (and possibly UX and good ol' software dev as well) and the DS program should focus more on statistical/analytical methods and their particular nuances and limitations. If the DS program is done well, with a lot of stats classes, then it is not a weaker program.

Honestly, with the current state of stats teaching, they might be better off just avoiding the stats classes in most cases. I don't need yet another drone that tries to convince me I should make a business decision because of "statistical significance" but can't explain why I should care about statistical significance (p.s. I shouldn't).

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by Ar-Curunir »

jamestimmins wrote: post #132
Ar-Curunir wrote: post #84

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Our computer security course at Berkeley regularly attracts 600+ students. Berkeley is doing fine in terms of traditional course offerings.

I meant in terms of online courses. Would love to see that class put online.

All the materials (except lecture videos) are available online; just google CS161 Berkeley.

Re: Berkeley offers its data science course online for free

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Post by Bombthecat »

solarkraft wrote: post #145
JoshMnem wrote: post #128

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Apple isn't open. Their stuff has tended to not work on Linux.

I don't see why one would need Apple to do it. A consortium would be much better and more likely.

Apple is big enough to piss away one billion dollar and create a crazy good online University.

Also need done good pr I guess :)

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