The U.S. drops out of the top 10 in innovation ranking

Post by mempko » Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 2:38 PM UTC

CandidlyFake wrote: post #79

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The US easily produces the most innovation globally As would be expected given the size of the US population. The only two more populous countries are both developing nations. But a ranking that didn't normalise over the size of the population would make even less sense than this one.

> As would be expected given the size of the US population. How about california innovates more than germany or UK combined? How about massachussetts innovates more than France? Would that be better? The beauty of stats is that you can manipulate and twist to for whatever agenda you want to show.

Post by ojbrien » Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 12:52 PM UTC

simula67 wrote: post #128

tlb wrote: post #8

What drags the US down most in these rankings is "tertiary efficiency": roughly the fraction of people in grad school or with graduate degrees. Ranking countries is a dodgy business, even more than ranking colleges. A different set of weights or ways of measuring things could give you totally different answers. If you're looking for a way to claim the rankings are biased, you might argue that this up-ranks countries…

I thought "Tertiary education" includes undergrad : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_education