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Re: Firefox 58

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Post by andrepd » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 9:37 PM UTC

jhasse wrote: post #128

callahad wrote: post #109

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Tab Center was reimplemented using WebExtension APIs and released as Tab Center Redux: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-center-re...

That extension is missing several features the old extension had.

Story of my life.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by vermaden » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 9:41 PM UTC

Still a lot of 'must have' extensions do not work with Firefox Quantum (57+) like UnMHT for example ...

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by JepZ » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 9:54 PM UTC

detaro wrote: post #118

butz wrote: post #26

Hoping for PWA support on desktop in upcoming versions.

What do you mean by PWA support? Service Workers etc already are there, and have been for quite some time.

I think he means 'Add to Menu/Desktop' and the visual part without the address bar, etc. I am missing that too for the desktop version, but actually I think the mobile version was the bigger issue and I have to say it works great with FF 58 :-)

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by SimeVidas » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 10:01 PM UTC

tomsmeding wrote: post #67

bonsai80 wrote: post #58

I've gotten into a habit of checking into all the performance boosts on Firefox release, but I almost missed the best feature of the release: Tracking Protection! It's buried under Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Tracking Protection I've been using Privacy Badger for a while and today installed DDG's new Privacy Essentials. Does anyone know how the new Firefox feature compares to these other 2 options regarding…

How is "tracking protection", as nice as it may be, a "performance boost"?

Tracking Protection blocks network requests to domains that are identified as trackers. This means that tracking scripts don’t load (faster page load) and run (more responsive web page).

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by jameslk » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 10:07 PM UTC

Long time Firefox user and since Firefox 57, everything has gotten worse for me. A lot of my extensions no longer work. This includes session management extensions which just don't work properly anymore. And of course I just upgraded Firefox and lost all my tabs. The browser completely freezes every 10 seconds for a few seconds (I'm typing this and my cursor gets stuck, then 5 characters show up all at once). I'm glad others suddenly think the browser is great. I guess they don't know what they've been missing with previous versions.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by mdellabitta » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 10:09 PM UTC

kuschku wrote: post #124

mdellabitta wrote: post #95

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You can't disable telemetry in the Developer Edition for some reason, so I've gone back to Stable.

The official response — I asked — isthat by downloading dev or nightly you "automatically opt-in" into telemetry, because no one would download these "if they didn't want to help developing Firefox". I've simply replaced all URLs in abou:config with https://example.invalid/ , that makes sure telemetry is off.

Interesting. Too bad Tracking Protection doesn't apply to Mozilla as well. ;)

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by MBCook » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 10:11 PM UTC

randomString1 wrote: post #115

scrollaway wrote: post #102

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I also switched back to firefox a few weeks ago and I'm not impressed. * Performance is really not that good. I especially have issue on Google sites (Docs and Drive). * Scroll-wheel to switch between tabs is gone. * No multi-tab management (shift/ctrl+click to select and move multiple tabs) like Chrome has * Firefox's UI on Android is utter garbage, so I haven't been able to switch there which defeats the point of h…

> I especially have issue on Google sites (Docs and Drive) And YouTube. And Search. Hangouts, Gmail, Maps, Calendar, Groups, everything else? I don't buy it for a second that it isn't on purpose, even with the polyfill justification. You only make it easier for people like me to continue ignoring Chrome (if I even needed more reasons).

I don’t think Google is trying to slow it down or does any work to hamper FF or Safari or IE.

I just don’t think they care. If it works, more or less, ship it.

Not lightning fast in Chrome? Put a couple of engineers on it.

Welcome back to 1998 and ‘Best Viewed With’ badges.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by sp332 » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 10:12 PM UTC

eitland wrote: post #42

eropple wrote: post #24

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Yeah, it positively was , and it would lock the browser up with misbehaving tabs. I managed to use Fx50 (or so, I forget the exact release) for about a day before going "nope, back to Chrome, it might chew batteries like crazy but at least it's fast." Firefox has significantly improved and deserves praise for it. Rewriting history to always be at war with Eastchromea is unnecessary.

This seems to be a weird thing: I've been om FF the while time and I'm impatient. In the other hand I've no reason not to believe it when so many people report performance issues. My best guess is a combination of different browsing habits and/or different hardware/os. (My browsing habits are mostly hn, local news and pages I work on and I've had decent hardware running various versions of Linux and Windows.)

I've had FF become extremely slow on two machines while it worked fine everywhere else. After a few months, back to normal. Profile refreshes etc didn't seem to make any difference and I still have no idea why it happens.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by sp332 » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 10:17 PM UTC

jameslk wrote: post #145

Long time Firefox user and since Firefox 57, everything has gotten worse for me. A lot of my extensions no longer work. This includes session management extensions which just don't work properly anymore. And of course I just upgraded Firefox and lost all my tabs. The browser completely freezes every 10 seconds for a few seconds (I'm typing this and my cursor gets stuck, then 5 characters show up all at once). I'm gla…

That's a known problem with the sessionstore.js file(s), http://kb.mozillazine.org/Sessionstore.js Try deleting them? Also if your places.sqlite file is damaged it will cause similar behavior, but removing that will delete your history so maybe make sure it's synced first. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_hangs#Other_causes_of_hang...

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by robin_reala » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 10:20 PM UTC

what_ever wrote: post #139

kuschku wrote: post #122

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Google didn't even make Inbox available on Firefox for months because they didn't care, and when they did, they ended up serving entirely different HTML and JS to FF. This is the same Google that is still keeping Allo Web and Google Earth a Chrome exclusive, the same one that has paid adware vendors to sneakily install Chrome, etc. Sure, you can believe that this is jist a coincidence. But that's one unlucky streak o…

Allo web has been available on browsers other than Chrome for a while - http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/03/allo-web-adds-suppor... This gives a good reason why Google Earth is only on Chrome - https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/66ao68/new_version_o... Disclaimer: I work at Google but not any of the related teams. I was curious myself about these so I Googled and came across the above two articles so these o…

Any chance you could poke the Hangouts team to get that working in Firefox? At this point they’ve have 28 months public notice that Mozilla would be deprecating NPAPI.