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Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 »

TimWolla wrote: post #137
dx034 wrote: post #117

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Ok thanks. So it appears that most peering is done in Frankfurt and available directly. Didn't see that wiki entry before. Let's just hope that they get more peering partners over the medium term. Peering with Telekom would be very helpful, pings from within Germany can be close to what you get from the US East Coast (from my not representative tests).

See this on why they won't peer with Deutsche Telekom: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10645577

I know that Telekom has a horrible attitude towards peering. But they're the only provider of high speed internet in many regions of Germany. Other cloud providers (e.g. OVH) also pay so I doubt Telekom will change soon.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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dx034 wrote: post #117
jo909 wrote: post #104

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https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Rechenzentren_und_Anbindun... "How are the Data Centers connected to each other? The two Data Center Parks are both connected to Frankfurt (FFM) and each other with dark fiber. Thus, a redundant loop is formed, which ensures the availability of a Data Center should one of the connections fail. The n 10 Gbit/s connections provide ample bandwidth between the Data Centers. The bandwidth…

Ok thanks. So it appears that most peering is done in Frankfurt and available directly. Didn't see that wiki entry before. Let's just hope that they get more peering partners over the medium term. Peering with Telekom would be very helpful, pings from within Germany can be close to what you get from the US East Coast (from my not representative tests).

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Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by darekkay »

dx034 wrote: post #64
hit8run wrote: post #29

Can anyone compare their service to Linode or DigitalOcean? I'm currently using Linode but the Hetzner prices seem way lower: For 35€ a month I get 32GB RAM, 8 vCPUs, 240GB SSD + 20TB Traffic. The comparable 40$ plan for Linode offers 8GB RAM 4 CPU Cores 48GB SSD and 3 TB Transfer (See: https://www.linode.com/pricing ) Am I missing something or is Hetzner just way more competetive? https://www.linode.com/pricing

Hetzner is easily 30% off OVH and half the price of other hosting providers (VPS and bare metal). So nothing surprising here. They have a cheap cost base (data centres in rural areas and wholesale electricity prices aren't that high in Germany) which probably explains most of that. OVH had basically the same price but their heavy investments in new DCs have made them more expensive. Since Hetzner doesn't invest a lot…

→ Hetzner: CX21, 2 cores, 4GB RAM - 5.83€

→ OVH VPS Cloud 2, 2 cores 4GB RAM: 23.79€

→ OVH VPS SSD 2, 1 core, 4GB RAM: 9.51€

→ OVH VPS SSD 3, 2 cores, 8GB RAM: 17.84€

For me, OVH's unlimited traffic does not explain the price difference. I will highly consider switching to Hetzner.

EDIT: correct meaning

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by chaz6 »

dx034 wrote: post #76
virtualwhys wrote: post #72

Uh, what? 14U colo rack space for 100 Euros per month[1], that's insane -- I must be missing something. [1] https://www.hetzner.com/colocation/13-rack

Yes, you pay German retail electricity prices, i.e. 24c/kwh. But they've always been that cheap.

What is the pricing per additional TB after the first 2TB?

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by lemagedurage »

myf01d wrote: post #83
phihag_ wrote: post #77

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Why don't you get a passport, government ID, or driver's license? I'm honestly interested, if that's not too personal to ask.

I showed them my government ID but they refused, understandably because it's in Arabic language. They asked for an English passport. But since I didn't have one, I couldn't continue the registration. It's really frustrating. Why isn't my credit card enough to verify my identity? Almost all top cloud/vps providers don't ask such questions.

It feels intrusive to be honest.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 »

romanovcode wrote: post #140
z3t4 wrote: post #51

I hope they grab enough market share to force other providers to lower their prices, Hetzner is like 10x cheaper and on better network and hardware then their competitors.

scaleway seems even lower and is pretty popular.

Not if you factor in that much of the storage is not local, generally lower speed and processing power often appears relatively low per core. Never tested them myself though.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC »

No clue about this new product, but their previous virtual server offering had NATed IPv4 and they generally have an idiotic IPv6 policy (only small prefixes, you have to pay extra to get anything remotely sensible--like, default /64 even on dedicated servers, you can get a /56 if you pay for it, more isn't supported).

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by Tepix »

dx034 wrote: post #71
babuskov wrote: post #68

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They could form a separate company to handle US operations only.

OVH tries to do that but I doubt that's waterproof. Probably easier to have an agreement with a US provider. Having everything in the EU makes it much easier for them and is a selling point for many customers.

A US company can't force a German company to hand out data, I don't see what you mean by "waterproof".
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