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The Big Vitamin D Mistake

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Post by Kuiper »

jventura wrote: post #129
themodelplumber wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been tracking my depression for a few years now, and I'm amazed at the number of things that can trigger a depressive episode. I used to think I had a disease called depression, but it now appears that I had arrived at a collection of various life circumstances that made experiencing depression on any given day more likely for me. Some of the main triggers have been: - Attempting to proceed without a plan - Push…

> Bad sleep (I now use the calculator at sleepyti.me and have had great results) Interesting site, didn't knew about it! I've checked it out, and as I wake everyday at 7am, it suggests me four different hours: 10pm, 11:30pm, 1am and 2:30am. What I find interesting is that none of it matches exactly the 8h average sleep value. As you say that you have had great results, could you comment a little bit on that? Thanks!

The point of the calculator is to time your sleep so that you wake up between REM sleep cycle (rather than being awoken by your alarm in the middle of a REM cycle, which usually puts you in groggy zombie mode). The calculator works off the assumption that the average sleep cycle is 90 minutes (1.5 hours), so it calculates times that would allow you to wake up between sleep cycles (9 hours, 7.5 hours, 6 hours, and 4.5 hours all being multiples of 1.5 hours).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_cycle

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Post by simias »

borplk wrote: post #118
skeleton wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now I'm curious as to what page you're referring to.

I'm not going to refer to it. If you are curious search on google or HN.

It seems dishonest to hide content that may be relevant to the discussion, especially after teasing it that way. Maybe if it warrants mentioning in your original comment it also warrants explaining why you think it's irrelevant?

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Post by methodover »

themodelplumber wrote: post #51
ravar wrote: post #15

Throwing in my two cents. I used to suffer from seasonal mood swings, since taking a daily multivitamin this has been the best winter of my life.

I've been tracking my depression for a few years now, and I'm amazed at the number of things that can trigger a depressive episode. I used to think I had a disease called depression, but it now appears that I had arrived at a collection of various life circumstances that made experiencing depression on any given day more likely for me. Some of the main triggers have been: - Attempting to proceed without a plan - Push…

> Too few dopamine-injecting experiences

That is an awesome way to phrase that.

I took a 3 week vacation for the first time since I started working 8 or 9 years ago.

Did wonders for me. Should've made the time for a long long vacation a while ago.

Re: The Big Vitamin D Mistake

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Post by sumedh »

rmm wrote: post #97

I have been taking 5000IU Vitamin D for the past 7 years, with a little more over the winter months. It's stupidly cheap, I get 360 5000IU capsules for $13, so it has cost me less than $100 over that period. Anecdotally, it was a game changer for me personally. I got less sick during the winter, and my overall wellbeing improved greatly. A word of advice, increase Vitamin K intake aswell. Vitamin D helps calcium abso…

> I got less sick during the winter, and my overall wellbeing improved greatly.

Just out of curiosity, did you work out regularly in a gym before taking those pills?

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Post by hellofunk »

rmm wrote: post #97

I have been taking 5000IU Vitamin D for the past 7 years, with a little more over the winter months. It's stupidly cheap, I get 360 5000IU capsules for $13, so it has cost me less than $100 over that period. Anecdotally, it was a game changer for me personally. I got less sick during the winter, and my overall wellbeing improved greatly. A word of advice, increase Vitamin K intake aswell. Vitamin D helps calcium abso…

Vitamin K can be dangerous for a not insignificant part of the population, many of whom don't realize they might be sensitive to it. It is a very strong addition to the body and affects blood clotting and interactions with many medications.

If you want to safely increase vitamin K, just eat more dark green vegetables like spinach. There's no need to overdo it with K or it could be a regrettable error.

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Post by adventured »

code_duck wrote: post #105
_fq4v wrote: post #23

This supports my lived experience. Found to be incredibly low in vitamin D, and diagnosed with autoimmune thyroiditis. Doctor said to supplement with 2000 IU being the max per day. After seeing no improvement whatsoever in vitamin D levels, and after talking with others with the same issue, I self medicated to 10000 IU / day. Lo and behold my vitamin D levels went back up and my auto-antibodies went back down.

Interesting to hear of a connection between this, type 1 diabetes and autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's?). I have celiac, also an autoimmune disease, and one of the symptoms is tingly and numb extremities, peripheral neuropathy. I think that's related to the ataxia side of celiac and nerve degeneration from nerves losing their sheathing. Prior to diagnosis, I learned that the numbness is also a symptom of Vitam…

Have you ever taken a fluoroquinolone antibiotic at any point in your life?

Look into r-lipoic acid, low dose 100mg (take one per day, with food), from the Doctor's Best brand (available on Amazon). You might consider that for the peripheral neuropathy, it does wonders for some people.

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Post by hellofunk »

ejstronge wrote: post #110
rmm wrote: post #97

I have been taking 5000IU Vitamin D for the past 7 years, with a little more over the winter months. It's stupidly cheap, I get 360 5000IU capsules for $13, so it has cost me less than $100 over that period. Anecdotally, it was a game changer for me personally. I got less sick during the winter, and my overall wellbeing improved greatly. A word of advice, increase Vitamin K intake aswell. Vitamin D helps calcium abso…

I haven't heard this about vitamin K before - please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we know how the mechanism through which vitamin K reduces skeletal fractures.

Correct; see my other comment as well. Vitamin K supplementation should not be casually added to anyone's diet without careful evaluation.

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

AstralStorm wrote: post #114
ejstronge wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't heard this about vitamin K before - please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we know how the mechanism through which vitamin K reduces skeletal fractures.

Indeed we don't, plus the two forms of vitamin K (phylloquinone and menaquinone) have different mode of action. They are important cofactor for many proteins, including one called osteocalcin, needed for bone calcification.

It looks like Vitamin K also inhibits arterial calcification.[1]

1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4052396/

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Post by joncrocks »

jventura wrote: post #129
themodelplumber wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been tracking my depression for a few years now, and I'm amazed at the number of things that can trigger a depressive episode. I used to think I had a disease called depression, but it now appears that I had arrived at a collection of various life circumstances that made experiencing depression on any given day more likely for me. Some of the main triggers have been: - Attempting to proceed without a plan - Push…

> Bad sleep (I now use the calculator at sleepyti.me and have had great results) Interesting site, didn't knew about it! I've checked it out, and as I wake everyday at 7am, it suggests me four different hours: 10pm, 11:30pm, 1am and 2:30am. What I find interesting is that none of it matches exactly the 8h average sleep value. As you say that you have had great results, could you comment a little bit on that? Thanks!

It's offering sleep patterns that match multiples of 90 minutes. I think this is on average one 'sleep cycle'.

Waking is easier between cycles and you wake feeling more refreshed (I think).

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