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Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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I wonder why they made the video like they did. Essentially filming a filming session. Like behind the scenes styled. For a unique spin on it?

The high-pitch noise in the background was what I noticed the most. I have nothing against the "behind the scenes" style, but at least don't hurt my ears.

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Evan of Snapchat talks about “performing for your friends” as a strange “side effect” of Snapchat. But the instinct to perform is native to the Snapchat medium. I think this is a problem. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. The people beside me would stand still for 10 minutes and then someone would pull out Snapchat. The whole group would turn around, flash a smile and start dancing for the camera. 9 seconds later,…

> How do I have an identity when I consistently invite other people - often strangers - to affirm my experiences? This sums it up so perfectly. It precisely explains what I've always failed to when people ask, "why didn't you take pictures of that? or share them on Facebook?" I was just overseas for several weeks and I was able to fully absorb the entire experience because I wasn't worried about what anyone else in t…

Is it easy for mastodon operators to disable?

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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post #135

Evan of Snapchat talks about “performing for your friends” as a strange “side effect” of Snapchat. But the instinct to perform is native to the Snapchat medium. I think this is a problem. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. The people beside me would stand still for 10 minutes and then someone would pull out Snapchat. The whole group would turn around, flash a smile and start dancing for the camera. 9 seconds later,…

People have smiled for the camera since we've had cameras. It's not really a new social media phenomena.

That is a fair point. Back maybe 20 or 30 years ago, the average person would bring their camera on vacations and that was probably the extent of it. But it's a bit different now that most people carry a camera in their pocket so these moments of "fake" display are much more common.

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Not sure I understand what you mean. You can set your Instagram to private and even if friends from Facebook see that you have an account there they can't just view your content. They'd need to send a follow request to do that. IG can easily still be a private space. I don't accept everyone who's on my friends list from Facebook. e: Also, while it's potentially more work there's nothing stopping you from having multi…

Snap lets you send stories (or whatever they're called) to specific groups of people, yes? That's a huge differentiator, in my book. It provides a simple interface for sharing experiences with specific people. Not really any different than a group SMS or other form of group chat, really. But a very different experience from Instagram, for sure.

Instagram has 1:1 feature parity now. You might not have checked it out in a while. I've been on since it launched when they didn't have parity but they quickly caught up.

It's possible to send disappearing video or photo stories to only selected individuals or selected group chats or a mix of both.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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Evan of Snapchat talks about “performing for your friends” as a strange “side effect” of Snapchat. But the instinct to perform is native to the Snapchat medium. I think this is a problem. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. The people beside me would stand still for 10 minutes and then someone would pull out Snapchat. The whole group would turn around, flash a smile and start dancing for the camera. 9 seconds later,…

That's a pretty dramatic take. Social media use in general probably declines with age, and although I'm not sure how you'd quantify it, I bet that using social media primarily as a form of social proofing declines even quicker with age. All young people "perform" because their self-awareness is on extra high alert and their personalities are half-baked. This has been true since the dawn of high schools.

I know middle aged people who do the same thing, their "performances" are appropriate for their age. Pictures of expensive vacations, manicured gardens and so on. Same phenomenon.

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When you save, you're saving exactly what would be uploaded to Snapchat, which is downsized for bandwidth reasons. You'll especially notice this on videos.

I'm looking at some of my saved snapchat videos on iOS and I am almost certain from the quality that there's no downsizing done here. Maybe if you send it to your story and then download it from there it'll be downsized to what exists on their server.

Move it to a desktop and you'll notice. I saved a number of videos directly from the camera view and it's much lower resolution than the built-in camera, like 720p or lower, which I didn't (disappointingly) discover until I got home.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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I'm certainly not in snap's demo, but > You can think of it as a more sophisticated Best Friends algorithm that makes it easier to find the friends you want to talk to, when you want to talk to them. I can't for the life of me understand why I'd need something like this to help me find my existing friends when I want to talk to them.

This is for mobile. The goal is quick access to the people you talk to often without having to search.

This passes the "subway test". You're walking out of a busy subway station and want to quickly take an action on the go - how fast can you get it done on a tiny mobile screen with so-so connectivity?

On desktop, this is less of a problem when you have all the time, connectivity, and physical dexterity in the world to perform searches rapidly.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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Evan of Snapchat talks about “performing for your friends” as a strange “side effect” of Snapchat. But the instinct to perform is native to the Snapchat medium. I think this is a problem. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. The people beside me would stand still for 10 minutes and then someone would pull out Snapchat. The whole group would turn around, flash a smile and start dancing for the camera. 9 seconds later,…

> Those concert-goers felt the need to misrepresent their experience of the concert. I felt the same sense of misrepresentation browsing Instagram recently, where the photo no longer represents the experience, but rather it is the experience (if one can call a posed and doctored product an experience). One problem with this is the behavioral reinforcement it creates. If dopamine is released enough times when a certai…

I think HN is quick to overlook the potential positives of this dynamic, so I'll play devil's advocate here.

Maybe the Instagram experience is how people actually want to behave? And it gives them a chance to express that ideal self. In other words, it's like the phone is a magic wand, and when it's pointed at them, it's suddenly socially-acceptable to break out of their shell and act silly.

Obviously it's weird that it only happens when the phone is pointed at them. But maybe, over time, this "behavioral reinforcement" will give them the courage to act like that all of the time (if that's how they want to be), rather than only when the phone is out.

In other words, the key notion that I challenge is this claim that HN is fit to judge Instagram as a misrepresentation of reality. How can we claim that the moments when the phone is away is more real than the moments when they are out? They both happened, therefore they're both real. And there's this unquestioned assumption that just because people behave a certain way when the phone is away, that's how they truly want to behave, when it may as well be just the opposite.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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Evan of Snapchat talks about “performing for your friends” as a strange “side effect” of Snapchat. But the instinct to perform is native to the Snapchat medium. I think this is a problem. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. The people beside me would stand still for 10 minutes and then someone would pull out Snapchat. The whole group would turn around, flash a smile and start dancing for the camera. 9 seconds later,…

I think this is more a problem of society in general. From my personal perspective everyone I have ever met is faking it 99% of the time. The only time people are real is when they are taking a shit and wiping it up before going back out there. I don't think people want a video of that on social media. Its a question of scale yes, but its the same property.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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Teenagers, and for that matter, everyone yearns for smaller private spaces where they can share whatever they want with their closest friends — without any reservations of judgement from their parents, grandmas or uncles. I used to love Instagram, until Facebook decided to make it Facebook v2 by making my entire "friend" list follow me there as well. That means that until I invest a lot of time hiding my story from e…

Not sure I understand what you mean. You can set your Instagram to private and even if friends from Facebook see that you have an account there they can't just view your content. They'd need to send a follow request to do that. IG can easily still be a private space. I don't accept everyone who's on my friends list from Facebook. e: Also, while it's potentially more work there's nothing stopping you from having multi…

You're absolutely correct. I'm not arguing whether it's possible to use Instagram like one would use Snapchat — it is, and my points won't make any sense from that POV.

I was laying down my observations on what's the default, and hence seemingly most common behavior for the given network. All snapchat accounts are private by default (yes, you can make stories public like on Instagram). All Instagram accounts are public by default (yes, you can make it private) The power of default has a significant role to play in how people think about and use a particular network. This is even more true for the people who are not very tech savvy, which is the majority.

Again, not arguing if Instagram is better than Snapchat, or vice versa. Instagram probably will win the majority of the market, and will have an order of magnitude, if not more, users, engagement and revenue. Will Snapchat become irrelevant and die? I'd say it's too early to make that call.

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