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Re: Training exercise boosts brain power, Johns Hopkins researchers say

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Post by arkades »

Bartweiss wrote: post #138
arkades wrote: post #79

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My understanding of the literature is largely that n-back training doesn’t generalize effectively, mostly just improving ones ability to perform n-back exercises.

Mine also. This article implied they did see generalization, at least to other working memory tests - but I can't find the full text to check what they used.

The only paper I’ve seen so far with any generalization used timing feedback to incentivize closer attention. Generalized Outcomes were believed to be due to improved executive function/attentiveness, not memory, which is what the time pressure aimed for.

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Post by mr_overalls »

acid__ wrote: post #118
dyarosla wrote: post #117

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Thank you for those (and the first link especially). That's more in line with what you said originally. That said, it is a bit suspect that it's always the same reporter writing about this topic. I'll have to dig into this some more, thanks!

Wow, nice observation, it's bizarre that they are all from the same author. I wonder if that's due to domain familiarity, small sample size, or some more nefarious reason (she does have a book published on the subject?). I wonder how common this sort of thing is.

People who exercise often have strong biases confirming the efficacy of the type of exercise that they enjoy most.

Weight training, running, Crossfit, yoga, martial arts - I've heard enthusiasts of all of these forms of exercise claim that it's absolute best form of exercise that makes all other unnecessary.

Aside from any journalistic biases, I assume that the author really, really likes running.

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Post by abakker »

okreallywtf wrote: post #71
abakker wrote: post #35

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If you need even more stimulation, Mountain Biking! With Audibooks! My preferred workout is climb with audiobook, descend with silence, rinse and repeat.

Its funny I have just started biking semi-seriously in the last year and I haven't even gotten to the point where I am even listening to music while I am getting my skills up. Do you listen to books riding singletrack? I find the challenge of singletrack at a reasonable speed (for myself, dog slow for most serious riders) is more than enough to keep me entertained.

Not downhill, definitely. Single track is more than enough. But, uphill, I’m not real quick. A benefit of audiobooks, in my opinion, is that you have less awareness of the passage of time. A nasty habit I have is knowing (memorizing) how Long songs are and measuring my time by how many songs I’ve heard. That makes long climbs on the mountain bike worse, rather than better.

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Post by okreallywtf »

abakker wrote: post #143
okreallywtf wrote: post #71

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Its funny I have just started biking semi-seriously in the last year and I haven't even gotten to the point where I am even listening to music while I am getting my skills up. Do you listen to books riding singletrack? I find the challenge of singletrack at a reasonable speed (for myself, dog slow for most serious riders) is more than enough to keep me entertained.

Not downhill, definitely. Single track is more than enough. But, uphill, I’m not real quick. A benefit of audiobooks, in my opinion, is that you have less awareness of the passage of time. A nasty habit I have is knowing (memorizing) how Long songs are and measuring my time by how many songs I’ve heard. That makes long climbs on the mountain bike worse, rather than better.

Ah, climbs do make sense, that is a situation where music or books would help me too. There aren't too many climbs near where I am so most of what I'm doing is more or less flat with small uphills and downhills.

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Post by mygo »

nostalgiac wrote: post #133
mygo wrote: post #128

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> but you've got 3-5 minutes rest between sets No you don't. You don't have to. You can have 90 seconds between sets if you want. Just stay consistent, gym session after gym session. Who has time for a 5 minute rest between sets? If you're doing warm-up sets you'll be in the gym for hours!

3-5 minutes is deal for strength training. So really it depends on your goals.

that's simply not true.

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Post by plaguuuuuu »

taeric wrote: post #16
pdog wrote: post #14

Do you know the best exercise for your brain? Actual exercise. Running increases neurogenesis[1] more than anything else. [1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/well/move/for-your-brains...

Amusingly, I would not be surprised to find some people need both. In particular, exercise is boring. Very very boring. Anything that can help with concentration during boring tasks is useful. Obviously, that is my experience. Ymmv

Boredom is probably a really good thing in many ways. A constant need for stimulation isn't healthy and makes it harder to do boring but otherwise necessary chores.

Plus there's the whole creativity thing when the mind is at rest.

Re: Training exercise boosts brain power, Johns Hopkins researchers say

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Post by plaguuuuuu »

tarsinge wrote: post #135
nostalgiac wrote: post #132

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Not entirely true. Once you're at a reasonable strength level simply switching muscle groups will not provide adequate rest for your CNS to perform your sets optimally.

Like I said above short rest times are not for powerlifting purposes but works perfectly in higher rep ranges. This http://borgefagerli.com/myo-reps-in-english/ works very well for me, great results and very short workouts.

I usually have a rest between sets cause I'm tired :o
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