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Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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Stupid. Are they going to tell us when men's physiques are photoshopped too? How about wrinkles or hair color changes or blemish and scar removals? What about wearing makeup? If a picture is printed, it has been edited.

> If a picture is printed, it has been edited

Well, sometimes if the photo is good enough it gets published as-is. Source: managed to get two of my photos of foul-mouthed Nazis into a newspaper.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But is it really fair that surgeons or NFL players don't match societal distributions for their respective traits? Think about how this makes all of the low-dexterity, low-coordination little boys and girls feel. For the sake of feelings, I demand mandatory mediocrity for every profession. Anyone trying to be exceptional should be hampered accordingly.

You're comparing advertisement to skill based jobs...

TIL being a 6'5" athletic model is not a skill, being a 6'5" athlete is a skill.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

#144
post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like a facetious over-simplification of what the poster said. If it's hard (socially) to approach something, because people are hyper-sensitive, then it's simply hard to help those people. In a lot of Western culture it generally seems accepted to tell people they're too skinny, but not to tell people they're too fat—obviously I don't just mean walking down a street and saying this to a stranger, but in appropr…

You're right. I wrote the comment without having read the article, which is why I wasn't able to put it in context. After having read the article, I agree, I think he makes a good point. Although I still think telling a person that you consider he or she to be either overweight or skinny is quite meaningless. If they ask you for your opinion, it makes sense to answer, but I have a really hard time believing that an o…

I don't think it's about not knowing if they're under- or over-weight or not. I'm sure there's a massive amount of research into why we knowingly do things that are harmful to our selves too.

What I took away from the original poster is that, it seems more appropriate in many Western societies to make available help for those who are under-weight or who smoke. It also seems more appropriate to proactively try help others too.

AFAIK too, we don't have the equivalent with smoking of people promoting that being severely overweight is okay. As for the equivalent with being under-weight, from what I see, many years ago the focus was being on skinny for the sake of being skinny as it's attractive. These days it seems to be a focus on being fit (and healthy), which generally means not being skinny, but having a more toned body, or rather, simply not excess fat.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

#145
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TFA is about France targeting advertising that is known to cause anorexia. GP's point is that (in the US) obesity is a much larger issue and should have far more resources put into tackling that problem. Not being allowed to advertise to minors would be one idea. But since TFA is about France the situation is different. Your comment is a perfect example of being hypersensitive about this issue. As someone who used to…

Mm, no, this is a different argument than "why not tell fat women they're fat?" I agree with you. But their argument was little more than an excuse to be rude.

Perhaps a policy of telling fatist arseholes that they are fatist arseholes.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

#146

The implication of this article is that agencies would be obligated to use what the article calls "more obtainable" bodies. Is this actually the case? I think it's vastly more likely that this will do little more than sharply increase the demand for people that actually have the bodies that other individuals were being photoshopped to have. It'd be like if a country banned all voice processing software when singing (…

> Is this actually the case? I think it's vastly more likely that this will do little more than sharply increase the demand for people that actually have the bodies that other individuals were being photoshopped to have.

It's true, companies could no longer photograph some schlub and transform him into an adonis with power of photoshop. But then again, nobody actually attains the a Platonic ideal of flawless skin and impossible proportions that we see in today's ads. The closest we get have are a handful of elite supermodels, and even they get photoshopped. At the end of the day, advertisement models will look more like people.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

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post #95

In the United States, Obesity is one of the leading causes of death, with estimates as high as 300,000 deaths/year. (See https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html ) Deaths from Anorexia are about 150/year (See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11513012 ) Yet we're all hypersensitive about telling women they are overweight or obese. It would be like spending weeks in urban schools talking about how to avoid poison…

> Yet we're all hypersensitive about telling women they are overweight or obese So you think the problem lies in obese people being unaware of how much they weigh?

So you think the problem lies in obese people being unaware of how much they weigh?

Actually, yes. Maybe not obese, but everyone compares themselves to the general population. In a society where everyone's carrying a couple of stone more than is really healthy, noone thinks of themselves as "fat", they think they're just average.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

#148

Stupid. Are they going to tell us when men's physiques are photoshopped too? How about wrinkles or hair color changes or blemish and scar removals? What about wearing makeup? If a picture is printed, it has been edited.

It applies to men and to women, and not to blemishes or colours but to reshaping silhouettes. It's worth taking thirty seconds to read something before attacking it as stupid based on your imagination.

Re: Is she Photoshopped? In France, they now have to tell you

#150

The subtext of the article seems to be that anorexia is a worse public health problem than obesity.

How is that? How does tackling one prevent tackling the other? Or even trade off from it?

i can't really speak to their claim of subtext. however,

> How does tackling one prevent tackling the other? Or even trade off from it?

this seems like a red herring question, but to answer literally: in an economic sense, resources are finite. as such, it must be decided how to apportion efforts.

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