I think this would be far more useful as an overlay over a physical map than just entirely replacing one.
By that, I mean.. think of isobars.
A new kind of map: it’s about time
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#142I've never seen an isochronic map before. Those are legit!
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#143It looks like a step backward from it's "prior art" that was installed in Oakland.
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#144I think this is great, but I can see it being potentially improved further if there was a temporary overlay of the physical map whenever you hover over a destination. Basically, I feel that completely removing the physical map is okay until you've picked a target. Then, having to click on it to be able to see what the route looks like (which streets to take, etc.) is higher friction than I'd like. Instead, imagine if…
It would be neat if they skewed the map to match travel times.
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#145I've met with people from the Berlin mapbox team and feel they are a nice bunch. However this map idea also reflects my core impression. Really smart people that provide constant high quality content (just look at the blog itself, how it's designed, and the other posts), but not really a disruptive spirit. Sie sind nicht der Elefant im Porzelanladen, you could say. That is their strength and their weakness.
"You are not the elephant in a cupboard full of porcelain", that means, by the way.
In the US we might say "you are not a bull in a china shop," which is in the same spirit.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about deform the physical map by a deformation field defined by ETA (i.e. stretch and compress)? e.g. https://www.slicer.org/wiki/Documentation/4.2/Modules/Deform... What would be cool about this is that it is still a map of the map, but the unit becomes time adjusted mile.
And given a suitable vector representation of the street layout, the stretch-and-compress could be given constraints so as not to warp (i.e. curve streets on) the map
My thought exactly.
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#147As a user, I would find an isochronic map much more useful than the weird radial design they want to provide. To provide the level of precision that the radial map does without destroying our eyes with colors, they could substitute a color gradient with some sort of border around "reference times" such as 5 minutes.
The author thinks that the time-only maps address the root concern, which is "how fast can I get somewhere." But that's not entirely true: there are areas where I live that I would rather go to than others. If I search for sushi and I see one place in a crime-ridden neighborhood, a second place in the middle of nowhere, and a third place in the "trendy" section of my city where most of the rest of the food is good, I'm going to the third place if they're all the same distance (and probably even if the third place is farther than the first two, to an extent).
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#148I worked in a hostel for years and Europeans often noted how funny it was that people from the states referred to distance in regards to time
ie, an 8 hour drive, or 20 minute walk
It was always fun to sit around and speculate as to why
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
The issue is that people slide from it being a good map for some particular purpose to some blanket claim that all people really need to know is is . The old classic case of this is geographically challenged reporters raphsodising about the London tube map https://tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/tube . I love the London tube map, but when I lived there, it was all the more useful to me because I look at other maps so that I co…
I disagree about the London tube map. I think it's brilliant. I barely looked at a real map any of the times I've stayed in London. I know the places I want to go, all the guide books (and locals!) tell you the nearest tube station, I know the nearest tube station to where I am. Why do I need a 'real' map?
>> Why do I need a 'real' map?
Canonical answer: Queensway to Bayswater
Tube route: Queensway → Notting Hill Gate change train Notting Hill Gate → Bayswater The journey time between these two London underground stations is approximately 15 minutes
Or just walk. It takes 2 minutes.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imo when it comes to that there is a huge difference between men and women, or perhaps more accurately people who are highly skilled in map-reading vs people who aren't. In general men prefer to navigate using a map, cardinal directions and can adapt their routefinding on the fly (the actual geography); women prefer to navigate using turn-by-turn directions and fixed landmarks ("five minutes that way," "make the seco…
In case it's unclear to anyone reading this, it's not just anecdotal: this has actually been studied http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01...
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