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Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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I'm curious, what are the tax implications of this? You're spending money, you're receiving money--does it tell you at the end of the year how much you've taken in vs how much you spent, so you can report it as taxable income? I acknowledge that the average person would probably end up with a negative balance at year-end, but someone who wrote popular posts could end up making hundreds of dollars due to upvotes and comments, right?

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ben Shapiro is definitely not the "alt-right". Unless by the alt-right you mean all conservatives. He was heavily targeted by the alt-right since he supported Cruz and he still is on the fence about Trump (criticizes him fairly often). Also he is an Orthodox Jew.

He's Townhall, WND, Breitbart which all share a common background with birtherism and people like Bannon. He's just mad that his brand of reactionary conservatism isn't on top.

> Breitbart

Which he left. Tell me what you mean by "people like Bannon" - people the left don't like? Guilt by association?

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>...but how exactly has a glorified message board which doesn't charge its users become one of the richest companies in the world? Because, as you just demonstrated with your programming example: For HIM it's a glorified message board. Other people may use it in completely different ways and appreciate it for them. I'm not the greatest facebook-fan either, but I think you're really overstating the control they have o…

I think you're missing my point. Google and Facebook are conditioning the population to say no big deal. It's creeping normalcy. Remember when Sergei was trying to make peeps comfortable with Gmail? [para-phrasing here:] "It's not a person reading your email, it's just a robot." Well now the robot is a neural net and I'm pretty convinced (if it's not already) that neural net will start feeding data to other nets buil…

Google no longer reads gmail emails:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-23/google-wi...

Though I'm guessing that they are only now okay giving up on email data because they have so many other sources of tracking your behavior.

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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post #129

I encourage you all to check out Minds. In my opinion, Minds has a much more interesting compensation model: you can directly send money to creators (feature called Wire) either generally or on a specific post. There is also an internal points system where you are compensated by interactions with your content. If you have enough points, they have a real monetary value. Also, as an added bonus, the website and apps ar…

Search doesn't work well: cannot find woman in area. Only political nonsense.

Yeah, it unfortunately takes time to build a community. The first wave seems to be people who have been burned by mass demonetization and poor discoverability on YouTube. The next mass after that is their audiences. The next after that will probably be the next wave of censorship refugees. This will likely continue until there are enough people for it to be a viable general social network (or not).

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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I encourage you all to check out Minds. In my opinion, Minds has a much more interesting compensation model: you can directly send money to creators (feature called Wire) either generally or on a specific post. There is also an internal points system where you are compensated by interactions with your content. If you have enough points, they have a real monetary value. Also, as an added bonus, the website and apps ar…

That homepage looks like someone made a wordpress site for a megachurch. Gaudy as fuck. When service doesn't get design this early and instead just crams everything they can into a page, it's good sign they're lacking taste, and that's something that can't really be overcome. It's like they're so unsure about their own service that they feel they need to overcompensate by talking about all the features it has instead…

Right now nearly all new social networks (esp the one which promise free speech) will see an influx from alt right and conservative refugees.

Dtube (distributed Youtube) is see it for yourself. People are complaining about alt-right and conservative refugees being the early adopters of any distributed/decentralized/free speech platform:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dtube/comments/6zlza1/please_dont_m...

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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As an American kid born along with the digital epoch of the 90s, I'm a bit of an oddity because the only social media I've ever used (& still use) is LinkedIn, which feels like sharing a room with a vipor. I have it set up with a dedicated email address and I only interact w/it in a sandboxed browser on VPN with a dedicated email address. (I guess you could add HN, StackExchange and GitHub to the list since there are…

> Believe me, people don't mind being in touch and coordinating through more direct means

I feel like you are from an older generation, not that there's anything wrong with it, but you probably no longer have the same needs as the younger generation. When I organize stuff, I don't always do it between 1 or 2 people. Once we were a dozen that went to an Escape Room, even more people were interested and even more were invited. It was barely organized days before. Sure it works coordinating through more direct means and people did that for a pretty long time, I feel like you had to when you had similar needs, but the thing is, there's a better tool for it nowadays which is Facebook. It's like saying you don't want to use the all good new framework because of the good old way that worked.

Also, it's partially true, people do mind being in direct touch, we had some people that just disappear from our events (and some of them came back using a pseudonym later on) because of that reason. It's a central way to put everything if something goes bad, this is where it's updated if anything changes. Again, it's like saying you don't need a bug tracker because you can easily do it using emails. Yeah, it works, but it tiresome to do it that way.

I personally don't care much about this tracking. It tracks mostly what I give it. I know what it does and I work with it. I'm not afraid of personalized offer, it's all good, offer me a new laptop for a great price, I would be happy to take a look and buy it if it does fit my criteria and my needs.

I don't want Facebook to know that I'm interested in software engineering? Well, maybe that was dumb to tell it in the first place (and in that case, I would use more private means to follow that passion).

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want any physical mails and I never pick up when people call me. That you seem to think this is something everyone loves is telling. We're simply different creatures and that's why I use Facebook and you don't.

We're different creatures in an analogous sense, sure. I'm simply raising privacy concerns I have and I believe it affects us all. I was disappointed this model did not address it. Invasion of privacy, profiling and tracking are big issues in my opinion and I would be curious to know why you don't think they are worth mentioning. I do think phone calls, and spoken word in general, are highly effective. You are not he…

I'm not the previous commenter but here my take on it.

> Invasion of privacy, profiling and tracking are big issues in my opinion and I would be curious to know why you don't think they are worth mentioning.

The thing is that they can do it. It's like saying people shouldn't listen to other people conversation in public. Sure it's "wrong" to do it, but you do know it may and will happen. The web is public, I'm not the only one that can your comment here and that's true for Facebook too.

I know what I post on the web, I know what I do on the web and I all consider them the same way I would do ANYTHING in public. I wouldn't share nude picture of me in a mall, at least if I were, I would be pretty sure that it's done in a relatively private means.

> I think, hurting natural and more effective means of communication and self presentation.

How can you declare it's more effective? I can organize events in a central place, way quicker and keep much more people involved in it that in any of the ways you talk about. You may be able to argue that it's not the most private, but that's not why I use Facebook.

> I see this ending very badly.

The good old slippery slope argument. I'm curious, what's the bad ending that you imagine?

I usually like to use this counter-argument over that one: Hitler didn't ever need social media to kill that many jews...

It's easy to manipulate people to hurt their community and go against what it's good for them. All you need is to control their fears. The funny thing your privacy fears is probably just as easy to manipulate. That's maybe what needs to be fixed, way more than anything else, though I would say that teaching people to be conscient of their actions and their impact is even better.

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