Decentralized Social Networks Won't Work • Hacker News Board

Re: Decentralized Social Networks Won't Work

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Post by htormey » Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 6:01 PM UTC

aryehof wrote: post #132

htormey wrote: post #94

I think viable alternates to Facebook/Twitter have less to do with the underlying technology and are more about attracting audiences not served by these social networks. Hence I think the next viable alternative to twitter/Facebook will probably be a centeralized one that caters to multiple niche communities. Mastodon was released in October 2016, it currently has about 800k users spread across 2000+ servers. Current…

Is there a need for a more closed group solution for families and immediate friends? Perhaps one based on definable groups and encrypted posts and comments only those members can see?

Maybe. I personally just use Whatsapp and messenger group chats to communicate with my family/friends.

Re: Decentralized Social Networks Won't Work

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Post by ojr » Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 7:14 PM UTC

egypturnash wrote: post #138

ojr wrote: post #100

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To be an accredited investor in the United States, you need to make at least $200,000 a year or have $1,000,000 in assets. Would you rather be funded by users of your app or accredited investors? I think in a free market, the most competitive companies will prefer the second option.

Would you rather be in charge of a machine designed to make money, no matter what the cost to the humans who use it, or would you rather be in charge of something designed to foster useful connections between people? Would you be happier building a social network designed to keep people on it as long as possible, so that it looks like a good way to get a lot of eyeballs in front of the ads posted by your real custome…

I use instagram, twitter, and snapchat because the user interface is sleek and the influencers of the network, not because of engagement growth hacks that are not sustainable long term.

Yes I would rather have a billion dollars than have a billion users with a dollar each. One is capitalism and the other is socialism, I think capitalism is just more natural.

Re: Decentralized Social Networks Won't Work

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Post by sharemywin » Sat, Sep 16, 2017, 3:52 AM UTC

phkahler wrote: post #79

sharemywin wrote: post #78

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or you could go after the money side of the equation. 1. let sponsors host your data in an open competitive marketplace. or an open marketplace for goods and services that focuses exclusively on driving value to customers through: 1. require low cost guarantee from vendors. 2. vendor can't buy rank at all. 3. better way to find products and service. (sort of like ebay that focuses on customer value not transaction vo…

What does any of that have to do with a social network? I've got other ideas for commercial ventures, this thread is about the idea of a decentralized social network. In other words, separating the social from the commercial.

the social networks are held up by inefficient marketplaces.

kind of like how amazon screws over best buy. the networks can't stay afloat if most everyone uses the social networks resource then goes to a fair efficient marketplace to buy goods/services because the prices are cheaper and easier more convenient for users. and the prices are cheaper because they don't pay an advertising tax which funds all the free useless videos.