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Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by SomeHacker44 »

As the head of a company that uses HipChat... Thank you Atlassian. We have intended to migrate to the (free and better) Mattermost for a long time and just have been waiting for it to hit the top of our priority list. Knowing you are abandoning the terrible HipChat for an entirely new product, with no migration path and 50% more cost, makes this an easier choice.

You have been abandoning us on JIRA and Confluence as well. There are many features that are not available on our self-hosted versions even when fully upgraded. Your licensing and pricing terms get worse year after year even though essentially absolutely nothing useful (to us anyway) ever gets added.

We even use Trello a little here and there... I expect that to go south too.

Well, at least we have GitLab and soon Mattermost, both suitable for much of what we need, for free. Thank you for making our decisions easier.

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Post by graeme »

mhp wrote: post #70
archildress wrote: post #50

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Just wanted to take a second and thank you for Trello. It's a staple of my everyday life and helps me get things done. I'm sure you've heard those sentiments before, but I can't describe how much better it makes my work.

Thanks for taking the time to say that. One of the most rewarding experiences of my role has been accepting thanks like yours, online and in person, on behalf of the team that actually built the product. We owe all of our success to your recommendations and referrals.

Thanks indeed. It's been wonderful! Incredibly flexible in how it can be used, it powers a lot of my business, and takes stuff out of my brain for personal tasks as well. Such an intuitive tool.

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Post by eloff »

For the privacy conscious, there's also https://www.secure.chat/ if you want a slack alternative with end-to-end client-side encryption. You can choose which channels or even individual messages you want private and encrypted. Of course, the tradeoff with end-to-end encryption like that is the content is opaque to the server and can't be indexed or searchable, but you get to choose how you want to make that tradeoff when you send the message.

Disclaimer: I worked on secure.chat in the past.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by seanalltogether »

cpursley wrote: post #56

My only question is, which Slack alternative does not use half my CPUs and suck down my battery just to run ideally in the background?

This was the response I got from Slack 9 months ago when I asked them about this. I get 30% cpu burn if i close the slack window with a animated gif in it

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Hi Sean,

Thanks for getting in touch with your feedback. This is something which I actually raised with our engineering team the other day and it's something we have discussed in depth. For now, we don't actually have any way of knowing when the app is minimized from the webapp portion of your app. Because of this, the gifs do not stop running when the app is minimized. We are considering our options here though and looking into what we could do in the future to improve this behavior.

If there is anything else that I can help you with in the meantime, please do let me know.

Best regards,

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by emddudley »

humanrebar wrote: post #134
altotrees wrote: post #130

So we have all of these chat apps. Choice is never a bad thing, but this has to be somewhat beyond saturation point, no? I don't know about anyone else, but I would rather have my work chat apps resemble social media chat apps less rather than more. Fewer Gif's, fewer emojis — they can be funny and endearing in the right context, but just feel forced and obtuse in a work setting. Also, this is coming from the makers…

> Fewer Gif's My team often uses gifs to document and demonstrate workflows in UIs. It's easier to consume than a series of screenshots, albeit harder to maintain.

The comment is referring to meme gifs. Your use case obviously makes a lot of sense.

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Post by foobarian »

shadowmint wrote: post #83
erikb wrote: post #48

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A common discussion I have with other developers. For a developer I'd say I'm a little more people minded than average, and a lot more big picture success oriented. And in both regards your personal productivity doesn't really matter. The biggest problem in software development is actually not per-coder-performance but that the right things get solved, and that the solution are actually good and quickly finished. Thi…

This is well said... although I think its unlikely to be a popular opinion with people at a personal level, but I hope the people who find themselves disagreeing take a moment to reflect on it. While I think it's fair to say these sorts of applications do disrupt people and reduce their productivity, I'm certain that they help focus team efforts in a way that meetings just don't. You can't split off 3 members of the…

I don't think funny pictures are a stupid purpose. They cheer me up and expose a different side of my coworkers, increasing morale and team cohesion. Of course they happen to be the right kind of funny pictures/links. :)

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Post by dylz »

dleslie wrote: post #132
scrollaway wrote: post #93

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We use Discord for all communications at my company, including now our video chats. We are fully remote and Discord is so much better than Hangouts it's not even funny. I've also transferred all my skype and hangouts contact lists into Discord. It's a lovely tool, lock in be damned.

How is Discord on Linux?

Mostly the same, since every client is a chromium wrapper for a web page.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by jamiesonbecker »

solatic wrote: post #131
jamiesonbecker wrote: post #117

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Agreed - we offer on-premise (and drive significant revenue from it) at Userify for people who prefer their SSH key management in-house. To be fair to Atlassian, they basically invented on-prem with SaaS-style pricing (and did us all a great service), and their biggest competitor here (Slack) isn't available on-prem either. Some of these features that you list in Crowd are ironically very similar to missing features…

For what it's worth, I'd love to try and push Userify at my workplace, but without a trial version to install on-prem, I have nothing to try and persuade people of the value of Userify. Such a trial version should be relatively easy to push out the door - just disable Active Directory / LDAP integration in the trial version. Also, telling on-prem customers to run curl -# https://usrfy.io/upgrade.sh enterprise |sudo -…

Awesome, thanks! We definitely offer trial versions to install on-prem with a built-in permanent 10-server license (via a one-liner), and we provide 30 (and sometimes 60) day free trials for however many servers you need for anyone who asks. Converting to production is just a matter of pasting a new key. We could probably make this a bit more clear on our website though (it's buried in our docs section[1])

That is a good point and that doc page is really incomplete. Upgrades are completely automatic in Userify, and without diving too deep into the `curl https | sh` debate :), security conscious are always well advised to do the regular curl > file.sh anyway, even with CA cert checks. Just a good idea.

1. https://userify.com/docs/enterprise/installation/

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