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Re: No Man’s Sky One Year Later

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Post by synicalx » Thu, Sep 07, 2017, 1:35 AM UTC

Bartweiss wrote: post #138

synicalx wrote: post #135

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Just on Civ, if you like it I'd highly recommend checking out any of Paradox's grand strategy games like Hearts of Iron or Europa Universalis. The AI is generally pretty good, although you might see some questionable behaviour from time to time. Balance is another matter though, for the most part the games try to at least start with some historic accuracy so you'll find some nations are just straight up hard to play.…

Thanks - Hearts of Iron is definitely on my list. Europa Universalis appeals a bit less, though that's mostly because of my perceptions of the interface and cognitive burden. I could be totally wrong about those. I definitely don't mind bad balance if the game isn't trying for it; Rome: Total War did something very similar with certain nations starting in terrible positions.

HoI4 is a good starting point I'd say, it's prettier and the UI is much more manageable which makes the whole game feel a lot easier to learn even though it's not hugely less complicated than HoI3.

EU is a different beast though, and I know exactly what you mean about the UI. EU4 has made some improvements but once you add in even just a few of the bigger expansions/DLC then it can really get a bit overwhelming.

Re: No Man’s Sky One Year Later

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Post by derimagia » Thu, Sep 07, 2017, 2:34 AM UTC

dageshi wrote: post #22

EpicEng wrote: post #10

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>NMS gets a lot of hate and I don't think it's deserved Should we just ignore all of the hype and promises made by the developer/publisher which were never delivered on? That's where the hate comes from. They promised something much more than what they delivered. Yes, they've made improvements, and that's great, but it still doesn't contain some of the biggest features promised while the game was still in dev. The ma…

>Should we just ignore all of the hype and promises made by the developer/publisher which were never delivered on? That's where the hate comes from. They promised something much more than what they delivered. The people who pre-ordered should've waited till the reviews came out and then bought? I have rarely seen a level of delusion from a fan base than the one around NMS, they collectively hyped themselves to a leve…

Regarding preordering - If you're talking monetary value it's of course accurate but I'm sure tons of people were insanely excited for the game. When it turns out to be different, it doesn't matter as much that they lost money but that they had their hopes up for nothing.

Re: No Man’s Sky One Year Later

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Post by EpicEng » Thu, Sep 07, 2017, 3:46 PM UTC

dageshi wrote: post #22

EpicEng wrote: post #10

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>NMS gets a lot of hate and I don't think it's deserved Should we just ignore all of the hype and promises made by the developer/publisher which were never delivered on? That's where the hate comes from. They promised something much more than what they delivered. Yes, they've made improvements, and that's great, but it still doesn't contain some of the biggest features promised while the game was still in dev. The ma…

>Should we just ignore all of the hype and promises made by the developer/publisher which were never delivered on? That's where the hate comes from. They promised something much more than what they delivered. The people who pre-ordered should've waited till the reviews came out and then bought? I have rarely seen a level of delusion from a fan base than the one around NMS, they collectively hyped themselves to a leve…

Wait... it's the customer's fault for believing what they were being told by the developer? I don't pre-order anything for this very reason, but c'mon; th fault still lies with the liar.

Please see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ-tgaE37UE

Even if you ignore the blatant lies, the game just turned out to be boring. An empty universe which lacked the awe inspiring sense of adventure that was promised.

Re: No Man’s Sky One Year Later

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Post by dageshi » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 7:47 AM UTC

EpicEng wrote: post #143

dageshi wrote: post #22

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>Should we just ignore all of the hype and promises made by the developer/publisher which were never delivered on? That's where the hate comes from. They promised something much more than what they delivered. The people who pre-ordered should've waited till the reviews came out and then bought? I have rarely seen a level of delusion from a fan base than the one around NMS, they collectively hyped themselves to a leve…

Wait... it's the customer's fault for believing what they were being told by the developer? I don't pre-order anything for this very reason, but c'mon; th fault still lies with the liar. Please see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ-tgaE37UE Even if you ignore the blatant lies, the game just turned out to be boring . An empty universe which lacked the awe inspiring sense of adventure that was promised.

Yes... that is the point of reviews, that's why they exist, to establish what a game is not what it was meant to be. If marketing materials were accurate there wouldn't need to be any reviews in the first place, if you pre-order you are pre-ordering aspirations not guarantee's, all anyone had to do to avoid disappointment was not buy the game until it was released.

As I said, that fanbase hyped themselves up to a degree which is ridiculous, they took every word out of the devs mouth from years of interviews as gospel, it really was an unholy shitstorm where everyone from the developer, the publisher and the customers made things worse than it needed to be.