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Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Re: Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Post by jedmeyers »

ojbyrne wrote: post #124
tuxracer wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nobody if forced (except for perhaps android users) to use Chrome Unlike iOS you can install different browsers on Android directly from the Play Store. These can actually be different browsers with their own rendering engines not just alternative UIs on top of Chrome. Firefox on Android for example uses the actual Firefox rendering engine, not Chrome.

I see Firefox and Chrome and several other browsers in the iOS AppStore.

Those are just UI shells that will use the same built-in rendering engine.

Re: Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Post by melvinmt »

kefka wrote: post #118

You wanna see how scammy and nasty YELP is? Look further down and see my criticism of Google and Yelp, and who responds. User [keymone] criticizes my choices at going against Yelp... And here's what I found out. Usually, Googlers will say "I'm a googler but this is my opinion." Well, we get no such disclaimer. And wouldn't ya know. Yelp engineer. So you wonder whom I consider more scammy? Yeah. Yelp. Good job, provin…

Please stop your personal attacks, this is not the place for this.

Re: Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Post by wbillingsley »

criddell wrote: post #107
bdcravens wrote: post #79

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More interesting is the HN (and elsewhere) crowd that never relents on Google apologetics, yet presumably would be (and among those older, were) among the Microsoft critics.

You're describing me and it pretty much comes down to trust. I trust Google a lot more than I ever trusted Microsoft back when they were the bully.

Which seems foolish. Microsoft just dictated the format your save file was in. Google ensures that by default most users never have their own data to load into another product at all. You seem to trust them because they have their hands around your throat rather than just your wrist.

Re: Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Post by vadym909 »

mrunkel wrote: post #13

I find all this hand wringing over Google to be so tiring. Google is doing what is best for it's customers. Be that advertisers and/or searchers. If they stop doing that, they'll lose their market dominance. Last I checked, nobody is forced to use google to search for things, nobody if forced (except for perhaps android users) to use Chrome. I'm not a laissez-faire capitalist by any means, but I don't see that Google…

Whoah. Hold on. The problem is not with Google offering a Review service for HVAC companies. If the Google reviews are more comprehensive and valuable than Yelp- by all means have them show up in the organic listings- for that matter even use up your own budget to take up the sponsored space. But don't pretend that you've now got a new feature as part of search (taking up the sponsored box as a legal maneuver) that offers a similar service like Yelp and that it is part of your Google Search service. That is PURE EVIL.

Re: Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Post by hooluupig »

ojbyrne wrote: post #124
tuxracer wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nobody if forced (except for perhaps android users) to use Chrome Unlike iOS you can install different browsers on Android directly from the Play Store. These can actually be different browsers with their own rendering engines not just alternative UIs on top of Chrome. Firefox on Android for example uses the actual Firefox rendering engine, not Chrome.

I see Firefox and Chrome and several other browsers in the iOS AppStore.

They are just themes of safari.

Re: Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Post by dang »

kefka wrote: post #118

You wanna see how scammy and nasty YELP is? Look further down and see my criticism of Google and Yelp, and who responds. User [keymone] criticizes my choices at going against Yelp... And here's what I found out. Usually, Googlers will say "I'm a googler but this is my opinion." Well, we get no such disclaimer. And wouldn't ya know. Yelp engineer. So you wonder whom I consider more scammy? Yeah. Yelp. Good job, provin…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14698057 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Post by dang »

kefka wrote: post #16

Indeed, Google is too big and has a massive effect on the Internet across the whole world. A single capricious decision made by Google/Alphabet can cause dozens of businesses to shutter or fail. And that is a big problem, especially if we care about upstarts and new companies. However, that responsibility they fail to take in consideration except by lawsuit, does not counteract YELP's BaaS - Blackmail as a Service. T…

You've behaved so atrociously in this thread—with personal attacks, rants, and other violations of HN's guidelines—that you managed to sacrifice whatever high ground you began from and end up well in the hole. It's dismaying to see how much damage a single commenter on tilt can do.

We ban people for this kind of thing, so please don't do it again. Civil and substantive comments only (or no comments) from now on, please.

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Re: Yelp’s Six-Year Conflict with Google

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Post by dang »

kefka wrote: post #116

You want to see how scummy AND scammy Yelp is? Look no further than further up the thread with HN:keymone responding to me, dismissing how Yelp is an extortionist. Oh yeah, keymone WORKS AT yelp. Probably as paid developer and proxied user to post bad posts for businesses that don't pay up. Extortion costs a bit, but pulls in dividends, I guess. Post below is my response, and proof of said user. And just... damn. ___…

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