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Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Then lets be blatant and straightforward then. "If you're rich and willing to spend, we want you. If you're average or poor, fuck you."

Yes we want capital and brains to flow in but your comment isn't fair. The US has a history of settling refugees here. We also have a purposefully porous southern border and have normalized illegal immigrants.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Vancouver, anyone? I live in Seattle and I'm about ready to drive two hours north for my next startup. To hire the Russian programmers I'm already working with, or the folks on Kaggle I'd love to hire. The US has a completely broken scheme for visas.

why bring them programmers here, why not move yourself to russia and do your startup there...

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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> They cannot apply for a green card during this period This will be a deal-breaker for over 95% of the applicants. Even though the H1B Visa is a non-immigrant visa, there was no such clause attached to it like this one. It's what enables 1000s of immigrants (like me) every year to first arrive on a non-immigrant visa and then get the employer to petition their green cards for permanent stay or eventually citizenship…

Damn. We might actually have to start investing equally in US children of all socioeconomic classes to ensure we have enough entrepreneurs and bright minds to compete in the global economy. EDIT: WOW, didn't think such an obvious comment would be so controversial (points are swinging up and down cyclically). Do ya'll think we are extremely efficient at turning potential into value from all of our current citizens? Do…

> We might actually have to start investing equally in US children

Who is we?

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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post #57

Then lets be blatant and straightforward then. "If you're rich and willing to spend, we want you. If you're average or poor, fuck you."

Yes we want capital and brains to flow in but your comment isn't fair. The US has a history of settling refugees here. We also have a purposefully porous southern border and have normalized illegal immigrants.

The current government seems to vehemently oppose the idea of normalizing illegal immigrants.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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What a strange comment. Of course the costs of an education don't just include the teachers salary.

Ok, fair enough. But only 11%? Retric's numbers suggest only 11% of education funding is for teacher salaries. Does that not sound as crazy and outrageous to you as it does to me? Especially when the system seems to be so ... dysfunctional. I don't know a single teacher who hasn't had to personally shell out money for school supplies for their students because their school ran out of paper or something else essential…

3.5 / 15.5 = 22.6%.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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I asked this very question on HN in November 2016: will the "startup visa" survive? Commenters thought that Trump wouldn't interfere with it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12931943 This is a solid reminder that the Trump administration is showing itself to be mostly concerned with undoing anything that Obama did, rather than working for anyone's benefit. You can't apply logic to predict the actions of these pe…

I'm not an American but as an outsider it's so odd to see the anti-Obama stance this government is taking. Look at the US economy coming out of 2008. From my perspective it's done quite well. Unemployment has gone from 10% to 4%, GDP has climbed. S&P and US stocks in general have done exceptionally well. It seems like whatever Obama did was working. Do the Republicans think they can do better? Why not just ride their…

Racism is alive and well.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Earning a lot of money is a pretty damn good proxy for contributing to society. At the very least these people pay some taxes instead of being a drain on society.

What, exactly, do landlords contribute to society? Their assets ARE their value. Frankly, my landlord could die and the only people who would care would be the banks. All money means is that you convinced someone else to give you money at some point in life.

They contributed value by giving a pile of money to the previous owner (part of the economy). Now they're recovering their investment. If they can't recover it in rent/resale, then why would they buy in the first place? Then where would the previous owner get their pile of money from? Ultimately it went back to the original developer who was smart enough to build a house in a good place that people in the future will want. Without that chain of incentives, he could just as well have built it in the desert. That's what I think the value is - incentivizing property development where it'll be needed in the future.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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> I'm 100% in favor of increasing all immigration to the USA Why? What's wrong with the current level?

The quotas are insane. It artificially hurts people from populous countries, making it basically impossible to immigrate to the US from india even if you are highly educated without H1B, which is itself a random system.

This is bad for those people, but not necessarily bad for the US.

India and China really need to get a handle on their burgeoning population.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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post #144

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Yes we want capital and brains to flow in but your comment isn't fair. The US has a history of settling refugees here. We also have a purposefully porous southern border and have normalized illegal immigrants.

The current government seems to vehemently oppose the idea of normalizing illegal immigrants.

illegal immigrants.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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> I'm 100% in favor of increasing all immigration to the USA Why? What's wrong with the current level?

China is of comparable size to the US and has a population of nearly 1.4 billion people. We need the best here if we plan on staying a global superpower. It's incredible what is happening. It's like watching a slow moving train wreck and there is nothing we can do to stop it. :/

When so many people live in one country, the value of the average individual to the country as a whole is usually negligible.

Do you think very high population density is more or less healthy for the individual? What about the effect on the environment?

What happens once the US has 1.4 billion people and global birth rates have stabilized so there is no one else to bring in?

Maintaining economic growth may be important but it is only one consideration. Bringing in the best foreign workers is a somewhat easy and temporary fix, which dissuades the US from investing in its own citizens.

How many citizens who are down and out would actually be able to contribute a whole lot more? Is the onus solely on them to compete with already educated foreigners?

It would be more less selfish and more sustainable to concentrate on nurturing a national culture of intellect, learning, creativity, entrepreneurship and cohesion within the US rather than supplementing our deficiencies with the best of other countries.

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