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The Benefits of Talking to Yourself

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Re: The Benefits of Talking to Yourself

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Post by cs2818 »

redcap wrote: post #20

Japanese train drivers have a system that's called Pointing and Calling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_and_calling http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/pointing-and-calling-ja... Visual and audio feedback is great for your brain. For me, I often need to make a 200mL bottle for my child, and each scoop of powder makes only 20mL - meaning that I need to put 10 scoops in. Especially when I have a crying baby it'…

Interesting, I've noticed this is also common in Toyota's US manufacturing facilities.

Re: The Benefits of Talking to Yourself

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Post by braveo »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #137
braveo wrote: post #26

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especially since companies are notorious for making the scoops bigger than expected so you go through product quicker.

Source? I have not heard of this. Our nurse emphasized that while a child is on formula, that's really all they consume for both nutrition and hydration, so it needs to be balanced per manufacturer guidelines. They don't have a way to signal "I thirsty" or "My tiny stomach is full of watery stuff but my blood sugar is still low". Their digestive and urinary systems are pretty amazing, but habitually using too much or…

I don't really have a source, but it's common with protein powders.

They'll list 28 grams as a serving size with a scoop that has a line in it about 3/4 of the way up that represents 28 grams. Technically not misleading, but it's absolutely reasonable that people would assume 1 scoop = 1 serving size. The end result is that people go through more product.

If you watch professional bodybuilders who have to be very exacting about their intake, you'll see them tell you to always measure on the scale because you can't trust the scoop.

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Post by mercer »

vldx wrote: post #98
suneilp wrote: post #50

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When I started meditating more often, I kept getting distracted by miscellaneous thoughts. At first I fought it to get back to the "quiet mind" but that was frustrating. And I would angrily judge myself for the distraction. I got tired of beating myself up and then I recognized that these distractions were the short and long term problems such as conflicts at work within the last few days, or deep seated trauma, like…

Curious, after reaching the point where you had significantly higher level of self-awareness, have you noticed any alterations in the way you talk to yourself internally, i.e. the tone of your inner voice?

That's an interesting question! I've fallen off the meditation/mindfulness wagon and my anxiety-issues have gotten slightly worse (as a result, I think), but while I was meditating regularly and even as a residual effect now, I do notice that my inner voice has changed.

It feels less serious, often even 'funny' or 'silly', I'm quicker to notice when it goes nowhere or drags me down somehow, and ever so slightly better at either guiding it in a different direction or putting a stop to it (and do something useful instead).

Really quite amazing to see how even a little bit of mindfulness caused a noticeable change after at least a decade of fully indulging in that inner voice and taking it too seriously. Good reminder to pick it up again.

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

braveo wrote: post #142
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source? I have not heard of this. Our nurse emphasized that while a child is on formula, that's really all they consume for both nutrition and hydration, so it needs to be balanced per manufacturer guidelines. They don't have a way to signal "I thirsty" or "My tiny stomach is full of watery stuff but my blood sugar is still low". Their digestive and urinary systems are pretty amazing, but habitually using too much or…

I don't really have a source, but it's common with protein powders. They'll list 28 grams as a serving size with a scoop that has a line in it about 3/4 of the way up that represents 28 grams. Technically not misleading, but it's absolutely reasonable that people would assume 1 scoop = 1 serving size. The end result is that people go through more product. If you watch professional bodybuilders who have to be very exa…

Oh. Our infant formula powder is a full scoop. I can see how the two industries might be rather different!

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

falcolas wrote: post #115
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #102

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wouldn't that be Holmes -> House?

Sherlock Holmes has been around since around 1891; predating Gregory House by about 113 years.

Right so House is later than the Holmes.

the arrow of time in Western cultures moves from left to right.

Re: The Benefits of Talking to Yourself

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Post by wapz »

goblin89 wrote: post #63
wapz wrote: post #60

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I've studied Japanese for a long time (and work in Japanese only now) and if you want to work on pronunciation I learned to "shadow" in my Japanese class. You watch any tv show and you repeat exactly what they say right after to get the intonation down. It's weird at first but it's super effective due to the difficulty of Japanese's hidden intonations. One other thing we learned was to talk real loud with either a hi…

Working in Japanese only means you’re located in Japan? What’s your line of work? Just curiosity.

I'm a unity developer (50% games, 50% 3d desktop programs)

Re: The Benefits of Talking to Yourself

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Post by tripzilch »

Regarding the "banana" example near the end of the article, it reminded me of an essay[1] I read on Fravia+'s website Searchlores[0], about searching for physical real-world objects. It doesn't mention to speak the name of the item out loud, but rather to use (if possible) holding a similar or identical object as a physical reminder:

"""Sometime it also helps to have an identical (or as similar as possible) object in your hand: thank to this "physical reminder", the brightness and color of the target will be more evident while searching for its brethren."""

I have tried this on occasion, and while (obviously) I can't say for sure that did the trick, it seems like it would have a similar (or perhaps even stronger) benefit than saying the name of the object out loud. I expect doing both would be even better.

If the site was still alive, I'd send in an addendum to that essay about it :-)

[0] http://search.lores.eu/ -- An incredibly useful resource, mainly about finding stuff online. Be mindful however it was written for the web as it was ~15 years ago (many tricks no longer work). Also try not to be put off by the Stallman-esque idealist rhetoric ;) RMS and Fravia+ used to be good friends, in fact (Fravia+ has since passed away). And like RMS, he too turned out to be prophetic/right often :)

[1] http://www.search.lores.eu/objects_searching.htm

Re: The Benefits of Talking to Yourself

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Post by tripzilch »

beilabs wrote: post #81

My father used to say; first sign of madness was talking to yourself, second sign of madness was replying to your conversation and the third sign....hairy palms. I talk to myself all the time, it's about more structuring my thoughts. I also swear to myself all the time. Self swearing is quite frequent.

If you still read this three days later and care for some unsolicited (but friendly) advice, regarding the swearing part: Consider being nicer to yourself. I remember this one time myself, suddenly taking a second look at what my inner voice just said (repeating it), and I was shocked, I would never even dream of talking to another person with those nasty, hurtful words. I remembered a reddit comment I read once: "I learned to tell that voice to f_ck right off" (bonus: you still get to swear ;) ).
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