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Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by kristofferR »

bluedino wrote: post #32
kevingrahl wrote: post #13

Aaand yet another reddit "alternative" and they all seem to fail or have troubles gaining traction. I can recall voat.co, hubski.com and imzy.com (my favorite so far) and now one more. I'd really like to know why devs think they can rival Reddit, it's just too big.

>> I'd really like to know why devs think they can rival Reddit, it's just too big. The same people said that about Digg before Reddit took all their users.

People switched from Digg to Reddit for mainly two reasons.

1. Digg started sucking

2. Reddit offered a truly innovative feature that most people found useful, subreddits

Reddit is still great, and this doesn't offer any significant features that I'd consider important enough for most people to switch.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by azernik »

cracell wrote: post #116
azernik wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since this is project is coming out of the voat.co community, I expect the community will be more toxic than Reddit's, not less. EDIT: The article implies a connection, but as cracell pointed out, there is in fact no association, even historical or in personnel.

Lead developer says it has nothing to do with voat here https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/5qhz99/... 'The whole thing is based on voting which is why it has "vote" in it. It has nothing to do with voat.co. I guarantee that'

Ah. The article drew a connection, which is why I assumed that. But googling the founders, it appears you are correct.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by maxerickson »

will4274 wrote: post #139
nailer wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use the front page because I'm interested in what's popular. But someone's angry "f--k (politician here)" rant isn't my idea of entertainment, even if I don't like the politician, likewise various violence/creepy stuff that makes the front page. Reddit doesn't let me block subs.

It does actually. You can exclude subs from /r/all.

There is also the excellent setting "don't show me submissions after I've downvoted them".

Click once to mark something as the sort of thing you don't want to see and to hide it!

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by michaelmrose »

nailer wrote: post #133
pavel_lishin wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The community there is simply too toxic and I've had to quit it. Which community? There are thousands of subreddits. Are you talking about the people who use the default front-page subreddits?

I use the front page because I'm interested in what's popular. But someone's angry "f--k (politician here)" rant isn't my idea of entertainment, even if I don't like the politician, likewise various violence/creepy stuff that makes the front page. Reddit doesn't let me block subs.

You realize that you can make your own front page called a multi reddit right?

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by nailer »

michaelmrose wrote: post #144
nailer wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use the front page because I'm interested in what's popular. But someone's angry "f--k (politician here)" rant isn't my idea of entertainment, even if I don't like the politician, likewise various violence/creepy stuff that makes the front page. Reddit doesn't let me block subs.

You realize that you can make your own front page called a multi reddit right?

Yes. I want to see popular shit from all all across reddit. Including subreddits I don't know about. There's no way to do that without seeing all the anger/violence/etc.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by [deleted] »

will4274 wrote: post #139
nailer wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use the front page because I'm interested in what's popular. But someone's angry "f--k (politician here)" rant isn't my idea of entertainment, even if I don't like the politician, likewise various violence/creepy stuff that makes the front page. Reddit doesn't let me block subs.

It does actually. You can exclude subs from /r/all.

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Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by sf_rob »

djsumdog wrote: post #122
azernik wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since this is project is coming out of the voat.co community, I expect the community will be more toxic than Reddit's, not less. EDIT: The article implies a connection, but as cracell pointed out, there is in fact no association, even historical or in personnel.

Voat has a couple of issues. First, it took in a lot of people from banned subreddits (/r/coontown, fatpeoplehate, etc.) Unlike the great Digg 4.0 to Reddit migration, they didn't a huge chunk of Reddit. They just got the most controversial. Second, It tried to be a full Reddit clone with tons of subverses. Reddit started out with just a few categories and slowly expanded out to user generated subreddits. That has to…

The problem is a "Reddit alternative" will naturally attract the groups that no longer feel at home on Reddit. It seems inevitable that any alternative will be more toxic and/or hyper-moderated.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by Pxtl »

Karunamon wrote: post #97
Pxtl wrote: post #94

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I'd say the changes aren't responsible for the "hate and anger", but the growth and natural drift of users. Undermoderated websites gradually radicalize as the heat and rage drives away moderates. 4chan is the extreme example of this, but Reddit's culture slowly lumbers in the same direction.

That would apply if Reddit were any kind of unmoderated. Most of the communities showing up on the front page have a litany of exacting requirements for content, and sometimes, stuff winds up deleted anyways.

For the posts? Yes. But for the commentary? Only a handful of subs moderate the commentary to any real level - usually ones created in reaction to the ugly nature of their minimally-moderated counterparts. /r/science and /r/canadapolitics are examples of heavily-moderated subs that specifically try to avoid the terrible level of discourse that Reddit is famous for.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by codelitt »

ehsankia wrote: post #129
codelitt wrote: post #57

I know a lot of people are rather pessimistic about a Reddit competitor gaining traction, but on a technology and UX note they've done a great job. I signed up on mobile and browsed around. The user experience is miles ahead of Reddit's new mobile web client. Pages load instantly, everything is smooth, scaled well, and no tiny text to click. Well executed IMHO. Regarding being a Reddit competitor, if they can get the…

> but on a [...] UX note they've done a great job Really? Their UI is bloated and ridiculous. On my laptop screen I can see a whopping two stories per page, compared to 10 on reddit. It's confusing, crammed and poorly designed. There's a big useless sidebar on the left where your eye automatically goes to, instead of the content. It looks exactly like the project of young webdevs straight out of school who are using…

I haven't had the chance to see it on desktop yet. But on mobile it's much better than Reddit's new mobile interface. Loading time alone is much better for me.

Anyways, I was commenting on the UX on mobile was. The UI wasn't what I was particularly focused on, but on mobile I found it much better as well.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by theWheez »

nailer wrote: post #137
theWheez wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience, you get out of reddit what you put in. With an account you can unsubscribe from specific subreddits, which I have done to clean up my feed from angry/creepy/violent stuff and I get posts that I am very interested in, primarily from smaller subreddits about hobbies, sports, cool technology, etc.

I have an account, and am unsubscribed from subreddits I do not like. There's no way to visit /r/all without seeing all the political hate, creepypasta, and violence.

Then don't visit /r/all?

I'm not sure what the issue is here.

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