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Burger King TV Ad Asks, Hoping Google Home Devices Answer

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There's a wonderful video online of that. Alexa, Siri and Google each tell the next one "you have one appointment today, it is 'hey [next bot] what's in my calendar today?'".

Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmINGWsyWX0

That could quite possibly be the weirdest thing I've ever watched.

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Do these people have no idea how much they are annoying their own customers? I just bought a google home (it's only just been released here), and if it either plays me adverts, or other adverts (ab)use it - I will return it to the store without hesitation. This was not sold as an ad-supported service. To take an extreme position - Google should take Burger King to court via the computer fraud and abuse act - they've…

> Google should take Burger King to court via the computer fraud and abuse act It certainly is unauthorized use of a computer... not a stretch at all.

one would argue that when you voluntarily install a device that listens to unauthenticated verbal requests, you pretty much consent to everything.

In other words, people who buy alexa and ghome do not get to complain about unauthorized use, or privacy for that matter.

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You're no fun at parties then. You should be upset that someone querying those things can feasibly scare you about triggering some kind of investigation.

Sorry, being childish/petty != being fun. I get some people have their pet causes/conspiracy theories - but is doing this at your friend's place really the place to be getting on your soapbox? If you want to make a change - go run for office, or campaign for something. Don't just be a armchair jerk. I know plenty of people like this that have their pet causes (usually government surveillance, or the industrial-corpor…

>... but is doing this at your friend's place really the place to be getting on your soapbox?

Who said it's a soapbox? Personally I'd find it hilarious watching a friend scramble to unplug their poorly-designed voice assistant—assuming they even cared, which they probably wouldn't.

>... proselytising and ranting to your friends is one thing ...

What about to people on the internet, telling them they're childish, immature jerks for not giving a shit about chilling effects when they're in private?

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Sorry, being childish/petty != being fun. I get some people have their pet causes/conspiracy theories - but is doing this at your friend's place really the place to be getting on your soapbox? If you want to make a change - go run for office, or campaign for something. Don't just be a armchair jerk. I know plenty of people like this that have their pet causes (usually government surveillance, or the industrial-corpor…

> ... but is doing this at your friend's place really the place to be getting on your soapbox? Who said it's a soapbox? Personally I'd find it hilarious watching a friend scramble to unplug their poorly-designed voice assistant—assuming they even cared, which they probably wouldn't. > ... proselytising and ranting to your friends is one thing ... What about to people on the internet, telling them they're childish, im…

If your friend bought it, maybe they don't consider is a "poorly-designed voice assistant"? Maybe they think you're just trying to misuse their device, and being a bit silly?

It's the equivalent of going to somebody's unlocked laptop and typing in "XXX bum photos" or "how to kill the president. Or yelling "Fire! Fire!" to scare somebody.

Yes, it's probably quite funny when you're young (and you shouldn't leave unlocked laptops around) - but come on, really?

Look, we're obviously talking at different levels here - so I think I'm going to withdraw from this fight. There's little I have to gain here.

BTW - To nepthar, unethical_ban, and rl3 - if any of you actually are under the age of 16 - then I'm sorry, I apologise and withdraw my earlier comments - have fun, buddy - try to squeeze in all the pranks/stupidity you can before you have to be an adult =).

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Lot of people are already bringing up various concerns. I hope this is precisely what it does here in HN and outside. Talk about concerns regarding about these devices. Is there anyway for end user to know what "wake up" keywords are? How do I know it's not listening for keywords like "buy" (example: "You should `buy` milk") and then targeting adds that way? What happens next time FBI decides it wants google (et. all…

> What happens next time FBI decides it wants google (et. all) to leave its device "always awake" on some person of interest ?

Do you not own a smartphone that could conceivably be compromised in the same way?

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> Google should take Burger King to court via the computer fraud and abuse act It certainly is unauthorized use of a computer... not a stretch at all.

one would argue that when you voluntarily install a device that listens to unauthenticated verbal requests, you pretty much consent to everything. In other words, people who buy alexa and ghome do not get to complain about unauthorized use, or privacy for that matter.

Unauthenticated != Authorized

And for that matter

Authenticated != Authorized

Whether you can do something is orthogonal to whether you're allowed to do it.

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