Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 08, 2017, 10:47 PM UTC

Pyxl101 wrote: post #92

mootothemax wrote: post #64

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While I get your wider point, I find the different types of mistakes that ESL'ers with different mother tongues make absolutely fascinating. I've noticed, say, that in Poland, where the native tongue lacks articles, people regularly mess up "the" and "a," or miss them altogether. I've never met a French person with the same issue, for obvious reasons. When I started looking into people's mistakes with tenses in Engli…

> I like cars red Interestingly, that word order is also valid English, though it has a slightly different meaning than "I like red cars". Example: "I like [my] soup warm". "I like soup warm, but you can eat it cold and left over if you want." "I like having soup warm" "I like my cookies freshly baked" "I like men muscular and toned" "I like my women blonde, so you can go for the brunette" "I like cars red" doesn't q…

Post by bluecreator » Sat, Apr 08, 2017, 10:51 PM UTC

throwaway71958 wrote: post #40

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #26

It's pretty fascinating to read the Shadow Broker's posts. They have to write something, since they can't just say "I work for Russia and we're reminding America that they're not invulnerable." So they have to come up with all sorts of contrived reasons about why they're doing this, complete with broken english to fool stylometry detection that walks the fine line between being believable and preposterous. Someone sp…

As a Russian myself, I can tell you with certainty that there are mistakes in that text that a Russian ESL speaker would never make, and verb tenses are a bit too good for an unskilled speaker. Due to the combination of these two factors, I bet this was written by a native English speaker who thinks he/she knows the mistakes a Russian would make. They're wrong.

Post by bluecreator » Sat, Apr 08, 2017, 10:53 PM UTC

bluecreator wrote: post #143

throwaway71958 wrote: post #40

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As a Russian myself, I can tell you with certainty that there are mistakes in that text that a Russian ESL speaker would never make, and verb tenses are a bit too good for an unskilled speaker. Due to the combination of these two factors, I bet this was written by a native English speaker who thinks he/she knows the mistakes a Russian would make. They're wrong.

This text structure is from the poem "America" by Ginsberg. They're playing with it. Particularly first second third person stuff.

Post by jorblumesea » Sat, Apr 08, 2017, 10:53 PM UTC

Post by grayhatter » Sat, Apr 08, 2017, 10:56 PM UTC

RodericDay wrote: post #111

doktrin wrote: post #48

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> surely surely his supporters don't subscribe to at least the latter view there? You must not have very many conservative friends on Facebook. "Russia didn't write the emails" has to be one of the most popular memes of the last 6 months.

How is that a "meme"? I don't know any conservatives but every single leftist I know thinks that russophobia is at absolutely deranged levels, as a vehicle for Clinton apologism. The idea that "Russia decided the election" is absurd, but repeated often enough, is starting to be taken as truth by those who find it palatable.