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Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by brooklynmarket »

We're actually talking to Google. If they don't up their game with their Alexa like device, AKA Google Home, it's next on the chopping block. Big disconnect there. She sounds like a robot, development tools are really a fraction of what Amazon offers.

The sales revenue is so high for their click model, their best minds are working on how to get people to click on ad's for shoes. Needs a shake up at Google, for sure. It's time.

Maybe everyone having to pass their fabled "white board" coding interview is leaving creative minds behind? Everyone just knows the best way to do a binary sort, and not much more. That's my thinking.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by discreditable »

nawtacawp wrote: post #92

https://pbxinaflash.com/community/threads/r-i-p-google-voice... "Looks like June 26 may be the final curtain call for Google Voice. Google today announced that it's finally pulling the plug on Google Chat upon which Google Voice relies on the Asterisk platform."

Google Voice will live on in some form via Project Fi. They make efforts to hide it, but Fi is very Google Voice-y. It even conflicts with Google Voice associated with the same Google account.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by keymone »

maverick_iceman wrote: post #14
thrill wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish someone at Google would explain their overarching strategy and target. This piecemeal approach just reeks of no coherent plan.

I doubt they have any coherent strategy in the messaging space.

How about coherent strategy within a company?

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by vowelless »

For a second I thought they were discontinuing Google voice and almost panicked as my main number is my Google voice number.

Actually, has anyone migrated away from Google voice to a better service ? I would be willing to pay a little bit.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by LTom »

I’m getting really fed up with Google. Yet another time when they nudge me towards using a service, only to retire it a while later. A separate app for SMS again , just when I’m comfortable with centralizing it in Hangouts. And Allo and Hangouts aren’t compatible, right? Every time I jump on Google’s newest app bandwagon it seems to end up being another ephemeral thing.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by colordrops »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #123
shmerl wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just failed. Google betrayed XMPP. You can blame Eric Schmidt for it. He gave some lame speech about how other instant messaging services aren't playing fair, so Google should also become a walled garden. And that was it. They made Hangouts and stopped caring about federated IM idea. It's a wonder we can send e-mails between many servers. Imagine someone like Eric Schmidt driving it. We'd be stuck with incompatib…

Perhaps this is the point we need legislation to require that IM services with above X users in the relevant jurisdiction must provide a full, open, protocol and enable interoperation via the published protocol? That's the only way I see the companies involved would move to enable cross-platform communications? Aside: >It's a wonder we can send e-mails between many servers. I have a shared account on a small ISP, Mic…

I'm not a big fan of legislating technical standards, but in this case I think I could support it. IM has become a fundamental communication mechanism. Imagine how held back society would be if we had 50 different voice standards rather than the singular phone system we have now. IM needs to be forcefully standardized.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by Steeeve »

All this discussion about what the future is in the messaging space...

The future is disarray, just like the present and just like the past.

IM isn't a particularly difficult problem to solve, even at scale. (and certainly not at startup scale)

It's not a good advertising medium, and nobody will ever spend significant money in that space.

It's an add-on feel good service.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by mindcrime »

scrollaway wrote: post #109
giancarlostoro wrote: post #85

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Sadly Facebook also used to do XMPP which is annoying as well. Used to be you could login to either one from any XMPP client, this means Pidgin, which most people used to use for MSN Messenger, which I miss so much when I think of what has happened to Skype. Even though MSN Messenger had it's own weird flaws (like locking people out of their own accounts because people would force login attempts to force lock your ac…

> I secretly wish Discord had been based out of some open standard because it is well done. I want to highlight that this is not realistically possible for anyone, not right now anyway. When Discord was created, XMPP was the only option if you wanted to adopt an open standard, and it was absolutely not up to the task . Matrix was also an option but far too new. Discord is a startup, and is run as a business (just lik…

and it was absolutely not up to the task.

In what way? The chief complaint I've heard about XMPP over the last couple of years is about excessive power consumption on mobile. And my own experience is that those concerns are highly over-stated.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by makecheck »

Sometimes I think they named themselves Alphabet, Inc. so that they can have 26 different versions of a product, one for every letter of the, er, alphabet.

Their executives need to get on a whiteboard and make a few simple mandates, such as:

1. There will be a single protocol for messaging across all Google properties, compatible with open protocols where feasible.

2. There will be a single “app icon” on Android, and single app on each major platform, for achieving communication. All legacy messaging services will be available from this point.

3. Every reasonable handle for identifying users will be supported, including: profile names, E-mail addresses, real names, and legacy messaging user IDs.

4. Effective immediately, every single team working on every Google chat product will report to Foobar McManager, whose compensation will depend directly on achieving integration goals by $DATE.

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