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Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by hodgekins »

pfooti wrote: post #79
f8kr wrote: post #42

Razer's Synapse, or cloud based drivers seem like a huge step backwards. Needing to make an account so I can change the sensitivity of my mouse is crazy. I've heard the argument * they needed more space on the device so couldn't include the drivers and configuration * cloud drivers allow portability of configuration Both of those fall on their face in reality. Lan gaming is mostly dead since most multiplayer games ar…

you can run synapse in offline mode.

Still worth avoiding. It's a bad precedent to have hardware on the "cloud" for no reason. I still need to interface with their online service to use my offline device. Having a keyboard capable of calling home is not something I want any part of.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by maxsilver »

danjoc wrote: post #131
thaumaturgy wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's unfortunate. Razer was my leading choice to replace my aging Dell laptop. Thank you for taking the time to let other people know about these issues.

People with bad experiences are usually the loudest. I don't think Razer would continue to be in business if problems were commonplace. I suggest going to your local Microsoft Store or Fry's Electronics if you have one near you. Both carry Razer laptops. You can see one, buy one, and if necessary, return one, all in one place. Brick and mortar. Good stuff. At least that way you get to see one before you make the big…

> People with bad experiences are usually the loudest. I don't think Razer would continue to be in business if problems were commonplace

Sometimes that's true, but I don't think that's a fair assessment of the issues being presented here. These aren't some one-off bad units, Razer sells a couple products with fundamental design flaws that effect 100% of units shipped.

It's like telling Ford Pinto owners "Ford wouldn't be in business if their cars exploded"

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by School-Cotton »

mathnode wrote: post #36

I am one of many disgruntled Razer Blade Stealth and razer core owners, currently awaiting a refund. Some customers are on as many as their 4th or 5th replacement unit. They have no English support in the UK, just a couple of german phone numbers which nobody seems to answer. The forum is terrible and they can't translate emails correctly. It's insulting. The typical issues are usually related to firmware, which myse…

I'm probably making it obvious that I'm American, here... but can you sue them?

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by danjoc »

maxsilver wrote: post #142
danjoc wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People with bad experiences are usually the loudest. I don't think Razer would continue to be in business if problems were commonplace. I suggest going to your local Microsoft Store or Fry's Electronics if you have one near you. Both carry Razer laptops. You can see one, buy one, and if necessary, return one, all in one place. Brick and mortar. Good stuff. At least that way you get to see one before you make the big…

> People with bad experiences are usually the loudest. I don't think Razer would continue to be in business if problems were commonplace Sometimes that's true, but I don't think that's a fair assessment of the issues being presented here. These aren't some one-off bad units, Razer sells a couple products with fundamental design flaws that effect 100% of units shipped. It's like telling Ford Pinto owners "Ford wouldn'…

As far as I can tell, nothing you've mentioned applies to people running Linux on a Razer Blade, Stealth, or Pro, which is the topic here. If that is the case, please make a specific point about it. The Razer Core was not mentioned for Linux support at all. My personal experience is that Razer hardware is glorious. Better than Apple. I have not needed to deal with support. It just works.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by djsumdog »

DonnyV wrote: post #122

These laptops are WAAAAAAAY over priced for what you get. I got a MSI G Series GS70 STEALTH-037 17.3-Inch Laptop and love it!!! Solid as a rock, always stays up to date firmware and plays Battlefield 1 smooth as butter. Plus 2 hard drives and you can connect 3 monitors. I can't recommend them enough.

I used an MSI laptop for over a year as a Linux/primary dev laptop:

http://penguindreams.org/blog/msi-ws60-running-linux/

I now have a desktop and put Windows back on the lappy to play games, but it was an excellent Linux dev device, although I did have to get Wi-Fi working myself as I was an early adopter.

I never did get Bluetooth working, but after putting Windows back on, Bluetooth still didn't work and I realized it was a faulty adapter. :-/ One day I'll open it and replace it, but for now I just use a USB adapter.

If you use a laptop for Linux dev, you'll most likely struggle with some hardware that's not supported yet (although I've been very lucky with ever Dell being supported by the mainline kernel and latest linux-firmware).

Getting hardware working is the _fun_ part. :)

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by djsumdog »

projektir wrote: post #105

I got a 2016 Blade recently and installed Arch Linux on it. The only thing I found problematic so far was Nvidia Optimus, which seems a general issue.

Yea, the bbswitch stuff hasn't really been maintained. For my most recent Linux laptop I went with a Dell XPS 13 so I only had one graphics card to worry about.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by djsumdog »

auvi wrote: post #6

I would also vouch for FreeBSD on Razer laptops.

FreeBSD laptop support is really specific and limited. I got FreeBSD-11 working perfectly on a Carbon X1 1st gen ... but the motherboard on it is going out and it likes to reboot randomly now (checked the ram, SSD and tried updating the BIOS .. BIOS update fails with a beep code whose only forum response on Lenovo's website is "return for warranty." :-/)

If you want FreeBSD on a laptop, check their wiki/list. There is a small subset with full suspend/resume support right now.

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by enknamel »

danjoc wrote: post #11
hinfaits wrote: post #5

For readers confused as I was, the Facebook post only says they're "looking at" better Linux support. The author buries in a comment a target for flawless Linux support[1]. But I'd expect if flawless Linux support was actually their goal they'd announce it more prominently, which they did not. [1] https://www.facebook.com/minliangtan/photos/a.11684295504016...

I wasn't sure about their commitment either, but on the linked page, Min-Liang Tan (Razer CEO) comments: "Well - our objective is to get the Blades to be running Linux flawlessly." That seems like Razer is setting a clear target for Linux support.

Under promise but over deliver!

Re: Razer targets perfect Linux support

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Post by nightski »

poink wrote: post #111
maxsilver wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also got bit by this. Razer's simpler wired keyboards and mice might be OK, but their systems are fundamentally broken. The Razer Blade Stealth (7500u) has broken Thunderbolt 3 / USB-C support. Most popular devices simply won't work at all, even though they work with other Kaby Lake computers, and even though they work with Razer's own previous Stealth laptop (6500u model). The Razer Core has broken display softwar…

Even Razer's mice are pretty shit quality. I've had them going back to the original Boomslang, and I don't think I've ever had one last more than two years. I just like their ergonomics and features -- and the fact that Razer is good about replacing them when they break quickly, which they often do -- enough to put up with it. I'm probably harder on input devices than most people, but I have working Logitech and Micr…

Well that's about how long the Naga lasts for me. I just budget ~$50/year or so for a new one and don't really worry about it. If I could find a quality replacement that has the like 14 or so buttons it has then I'd go for it. But at the moment I use every single button and wouldn't give it up for anything less.
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