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Re: Microsoft open-sources Graph Engine

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Post by mememachine »

ukyrgf wrote: post #91
brilliantcode wrote: post #58

Microsoft of 2017 makes me forget about Microsoft of 1997. It's insane how a shakeup of CEO and new cultural shift can seemingly add another major boost to it's brand. I welcome open source, eventually, I believe that it will eat commercial software, if the right economic incentives are in place. Microsoft may be signaling this to the market.

I started to get this warm fuzzy feeling as well. Then, I experienced a bug in OneDrive and decided to report it. A week later they responded by referring me to a site where users get 7 votes to pick which bugs you want their team to investigate. The warm fuzzies disappeared...

Not sure whats wrong with that

Re: Microsoft open-sources Graph Engine

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Post by hackuser »

PaulHoule wrote: post #115
bluejekyll wrote: post #5

At this rate, are we going to see Windows open-sourced? MS is on a roll. My bias since 1996 is being eroded with each OSS release they have, and multi-platform targeted support. I started using VSCode regularly as my main Rust IDE, and I feel dirty for liking it. It's seemless across macOS and Linux.

It has nothing to do with Linux vs. Windows. It does have something to do with SQL Server vs the world -- and that is life as usual at Microsoft. Microsoft had a big leadership role in XML standardization at the W3C but has had little to do with RDF. (ex. Oracle contains a forward-chaining triple store optimized for geospatial work, SQL Server does not.) The Microsoft SQL server team would naturally oppose any effort…

> Microsoft SQL server Express/Compact/whatever is not an effective replacement.

Why not?

Re: Microsoft open-sources Graph Engine

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Post by flukus »

Someone1234 wrote: post #43
WayneBro wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not yet. Their next strategy is to try and use ARM (again) to shove UWP down your throat. I love Windows but I seriously will not touch UWP until they loosen up the sandbox restrictions so that I can do regular IPC with a win32 desktop app. You can't even send an HTTP request to a little node.js Web server running on your desktop right now. Fuck that. I'm not buying into it.

> I love Windows but I seriously will not touch UWP until they loosen up the sandbox restrictions so that I can do regular IPC with a win32 desktop app. The whole reason for the UWP sandboxing is to make it so that users can confidently install UWP applications with some assurances that it isn't spyware/malware/blackmailware that will take over their PC or steal their personal information. UWP is Microsoft's answer t…

We can improve security by turning the computer off but you have to balance security and utility. At the moment UWP is way to far towards security.

Until you can run power tools (compilers, IDE's, web servers, system tweakers) as UWP apps it will be inferior to win32.

This is why no one is investing in UWP apps, you don't want to spend months/years developing something only to find out that the app is crippled because of a limitation you weren't aware of.

Re: Microsoft open-sources Graph Engine

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Post by flukus »

pjmlp wrote: post #84
WayneBro wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not yet. Their next strategy is to try and use ARM (again) to shove UWP down your throat. I love Windows but I seriously will not touch UWP until they loosen up the sandbox restrictions so that I can do regular IPC with a win32 desktop app. You can't even send an HTTP request to a little node.js Web server running on your desktop right now. Fuck that. I'm not buying into it.

I love sandboxes, on Windows, Mac OS X, Android, iOS ,Chrome OS X. One day my GNU/Linux installs will also only run sandboxed applications. I guess you don't use either an iOS or Android device, because you cannot do regular UNIX IPC on them.

iOs and android aren't general purpose computers.

Re: Microsoft open-sources Graph Engine

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Post by userbinator »

bluejekyll wrote: post #5

At this rate, are we going to see Windows open-sourced? MS is on a roll. My bias since 1996 is being eroded with each OSS release they have, and multi-platform targeted support. I started using VSCode regularly as my main Rust IDE, and I feel dirty for liking it. It's seemless across macOS and Linux.

Windows open-sourced? Maybe an older version (you can already get the kernel source for XP/2K3 under a restrictive license, but nonetheless you don't have to be an MS employee for it) but I don't see MS open-sourcing anything newer for the forseeable future --- otherwise I bet someone will just make a fork with all the telemetry and other invasive features removed, which certainly doesn't help MS.

Re: Microsoft open-sources Graph Engine

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Post by v-yadli »

halflings wrote: post #98
v-yadli wrote: post #40

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Dev here. Cross-platform for Linux/BSD is on the way, and it's already in the repo now.

That's great! You should definitely add that to the docs. I just went to the same page and was extremely disappointed when I saw that it required Windows. A benchmark comparing it with similar solutions (esp. Neo4j) would be much welcome.

Sure we'll definitely update the docs! Or better to work out one way to put the docs on GitHub and keep it synchronized with the site (they're markdown anyway)

Re: Microsoft open-sources Graph Engine

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Post by dfsegoat »

v-yadli wrote: post #40
wyldfire wrote: post #2

I find that very abstract software packages like this are difficult to visualize without an example. This page does not offer one, but TFM does -- see [1]. Also note that TFM describes the fact that this is Windows-only. That makes it substantially less interesting, IMO. [1] https://www.graphengine.io/docs/manual/index.html#what-is-ge

Dev here. Cross-platform for Linux/BSD is on the way, and it's already in the repo now.

Awesome. Thanks for being on-top of putting this info out there: I was about to gripe about no mention of linux in the reqs/docs.

Re: Microsoft open-sources Graph Engine

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Post by beagle3 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #120
beagle3 wrote: post #97

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If only. sudo, as configured out-of-the-box on Ubuntu, gets out of your way and lets you work (Except if you haven't properly authenticated in the last 15 minutes); polkit is similarly out-of-your-way. Sudo is also (relatively) easy to configure: "this command line can be run under sudo by anybody", "this command must not be run under sudo even if they know their password", etc. UAC is always-in-your-face about every…

While what you say was true about Vista, in Windows 7, 8, 8.1, and 10 UAC prompts are suppressed when they're the direct result of user interactions within the OS itself. Each OS reduced the number of UAC prompts a user experiences.

Then Vista must have been completely unusable in that sense. Because 7, 8.1 and 10 that I occasionally use are still very bad compared to sudo.
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