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I'd rather live in a country that provides comprehensive free health care and limits soda consumption, than one that allows me the "freedom" to consume as much sugar as possible and makes me pay for the consequences. I must be a radical hippie leftist: I think we should tax the sh-t out of refined sugar and subsidize organic vegetable farms.
I agree much more with jdam's thoughts - why are we controlling other people with laws. Its sad, ... scary at worse. Is your idea really to start policing people's everyday interactions that we don't support? Just the judicial and monitoring overhead alone makes this really silly. What do you do to a restaurant that serves unlimited sodas? What resources do you expend to find them and bring them to trial?
Right now the USA is subsidizing the corn industry to the tune of billions of dollars a year. 5-10% of that corn gets turned in to sweeteners.
Why are we taxing honest, hard-working Americans to provide cheap sweeteners for your sugar fix? Why are we subsidizing an industry that has been shown to have negative health effects?
I'm just saying that if you're going to subsidize farmers, you might as well say they have to make healthy food, not poison. :)
I remember my vacation in the states (in the South). I got served a absolutely massive glass of coca-cola with my dinner. When I had finally managed to finish it a waiter came and refilled the bloody thing when I wasn't paying attention. How can you enjoy your meal with that much to drink?
When the U.S. and Russia began joint space station operations aboard the Mir station, one of the startling findings was the enormous quantity of water the American astronauts consumed compared to their Russian counterparts. I remember my first trips abroad to Europe and Asia and being baffled by how little water people drink or the tiny cups that they're served with. Among Americans, the South is especially known for…
> man has been proven by several dozens of studies If so Trump can back his actions by "several dozens of studies", then its ok right ? > If your definition of "freedom" is "doing whatever the fuck I want without any limitations no matter the consequences", then I fail to see how this is a value worth pursuing. Individual never do right. Collective never do wrong. Hmmm. Leave us alone. Please.
Also, it looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's not what this site is for (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), so please stop doing that.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13506936 and marked it off-topic.
French (expat) here, can't remember ever seeing any when I lived in France. Have I always been at the wrong restaurants?
The only one chain doing unlimited drinks in France is KFC.
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Is that what you think this it? Do you actually think this is unjust and oppressive? To me it looks like a government doing what it is designed to do: govern. AKA "conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of (a state, organization, or people)." Perhaps you should describe to me the devastating consequences of this law, so that I may better understand your suffering.
A proper balance is important, though. Let government regulate too much and things will get really bad. The problem is in defining what would be "too much" (and "too few"). Here, the opinions digress heavily.
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> Are you from a place where there is a cultural taboo against only drinking part of the beverage a restaurant serves you? I think that describes most of the world, if allowance is made for places where leaving the last sip (or last mouthful, for food) shows enough was served.
I've never felt this pressure in the US. For food , sure. I was always told growing up to finish my food at each meal. But for water or soda, never.
What stops them from offer 100 refills?
1. Laws are administered by judges who might have a different approach to interpretation than random HN commenters.
2. Openly flaunting the law might give more bad publicity that it would be worth.
3. There is practically zero market pressure to offer free refills, but not offering free refills is a potential goldmine.
In the show, citizens are pissed because Leslie, the politician lady, decides to tax oversized sodas.
Maybe people don't deserve the "liberty" to drink gallons of sugar. And maybe companies don't deserve to offer it to people.