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Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Why is that? Anything he did for Apple is owned by Apple.

Including his contacts and reputation? What if someone wants to email him now?

Then he'll make his email or other contact information available in some manner.

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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I think you're projecting. I have bought Apple products because they work best for me in light of other options, but I don't consider them above criticism or reproach. Calling someone a fanboy is just as old (and frankly, quite silly).

Didn't say you were a fanboy. Unfortunately, your defensiveness about being an Apple patriot is boring, which was what I was getting at.

Fanboy, patriot... not sure where the venom or reaching conclusions are coming from, but at least we can agree this has become boring :-)

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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It's not that I don't consider any one else worth following; that's neither what I wrote nor meant. My apologies if that's what came across. Surely there are tons of talented folk behind the scenes, and I am not disparaging the people that remain employed with Apple. It's simply that they are (to date) invisible to me. That's not surprising. It's hard to break out as an influential contributor and personality when yo…

> It's hard to break out as an influential contributor and personality when you are perhaps a quiet hero, humble team member, or hidden behind the branding of a large software corporation. While there are a ton of folks at every large corporation who fit this description, I mentioned swift/clang/llvm specifically because they are big visible open source projects with extremely active and visible contributors. As you…

I'm afraid your bar for not being surprised is getting quite high ;-) I am familiar with many of the contributors of those open-source projects from IRC and their mailing lists. Not every vocal contributor is an Apple employee, i.e., Erica Sudan, nor is everyone that contributes, well, "Chris Lattner".

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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That is a bit of leap isn't it ? Improving the compiler has very little to do with automated driving vehicles.

No way is it a leap. Lots of people are doing stuff to llvm to do gpu work. Take mapd for instance. There is a LOT of untapped llvm -> gpu goodness to be had.

Yeah but not for automated driving which requires good algorithms more than anything else.

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Get a job in games :)

Seconded! LuaJIT is extremely popular in gaming, you'll have no time finding work in that industry; finding people for it is hard when Javascript is so FOTM. Stay away from EA and Amazon. Don't bother applying to unity shops either, those generally don't use Lua at all.

I really want to write a game in Love2d one day. https://love2d.org/

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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Lots of great people leaving Apple right now, not a good sign.

I suspect there are a few good people in the 33,000 others employed there.

We're talking TOP tier world-class employees (director of ML, lead dev of Swift), lots of lost mind share, not just any ordinary of the 33,000 rank and file. The best engineers often make lasting and drastic contributions and even have some say regarding the direction of the company itself.

Re: Update on the Swift Project Lead

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It would seem to me that the reporter should have at the very least reached out to the commenter they were quoting and asked for permission to use them as a source. If it were me writing the story I would have made very sure the source was also reputable and confirmable, as that is not always the case in public forums, regardless of the usually high quality nature of HN commenters.

What if you had only an hour or so to research, write, and publish in order to meet your daily quota? "If they were writing five posts a day, one former employee recalled, Blodget [CEO of Business Insider] urged them to write six." http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/29/media/business-insider-staff... These sorts of incentives (and the resulting "reporting" quality) are the natural result of the web we have created.

I agree with your sentiment. My feeling is however that the existing incentives are the problem, and they result in low quality journalism.
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