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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

Fogbugz (also created by Fog Creek) is actually a pretty good alternative to JIRA.

Fogbugz seems to really be pushing their cloud stuff though, so I basically ruled it out instantly when I was researching options - it's unacceptable to have to host our code and tracker off-premises on hardware we don't control. Whereas even a small team can run JIRA or GitLab on their own hardware for a very reasonable price.

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#143

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There are a few new features over the last 5 years... * Merge checks * Build status (finally...) * Audit logs * Inline editing From: https://bitbucket.org/whats-new Nothing that keeps it above Github, but they always seem to maintain feature parity. /not a bitbucket shill //just don't like inaccurate comments.

It's okay. It's just that I tried to use it a few months ago and saw they still don't even have syntax highlighting for diffs. It's pretty depressing and it makes it look like they have abandoned the service.

I've been using BitBucket for years and the lack of syntax highlighting for diffs has never even occurred to me.

Why would you want to use such a limited diff tool at all? Personally, I use the best diff tool that I can find and so far that's BeyondCompare from Scooter Software.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

#144

I'm a big fan of Trello but I dread using Atlassian products. I do not have a good feeling about this. Hopefully Atlassian can learn from what makes Trello so wonderful instead of JIRA-ifying it into oblivion.

Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

I agree, we abandoned Trello because of how poorly it handled a team of mixed users. It seemed like all the solutions for our problems had to come from browser plugins, which is just a bad proposition when you need a mix of users of various technical capability.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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I'm optimistic in that there may finally be a self-hosted version of Trello.

Whilst not as well produced as Trello, https://kanboard.net/ is self hostable.

If we're going for OS Trello clones, Wekan [1] is another choice.

[1] https://wekan.io/

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

#146

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It's okay. It's just that I tried to use it a few months ago and saw they still don't even have syntax highlighting for diffs. It's pretty depressing and it makes it look like they have abandoned the service.

I've been using BitBucket for years and the lack of syntax highlighting for diffs has never even occurred to me. Why would you want to use such a limited diff tool at all? Personally, I use the best diff tool that I can find and so far that's BeyondCompare from Scooter Software.

it becomes more important when you use this for code-review. Then reach diffs makes more sense. Once you start using them you don't want to go back :)

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

#147

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They also support Mercurial, which I personally find to be a way better scm tool than git. Not trying to start the classic hg vs git debate, just saying that it's great to have the option.

It's not better, it's just a million times more usable. A Ferrari is nice, but for day-to-day stuff I'd rather use a Volvo :)

The trick to git is figuring out the subset of commands that make it work like a Volvo

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

#148

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Fogbugz (also created by Fog Creek) is actually a pretty good alternative to JIRA.

Fogbugz seems to really be pushing their cloud stuff though, so I basically ruled it out instantly when I was researching options - it's unacceptable to have to host our code and tracker off-premises on hardware we don't control. Whereas even a small team can run JIRA or GitLab on their own hardware for a very reasonable price.

They still offer an on-premises version though. IIRC, their on-prem version price was fairly reasonable (that was almost 10y ago though)

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

#149
This is a great acquistion for both parties.

1. Trello was smart in only taking $10M in VC funding [1]. This allows for a 40x return for it's investors. If Trello were like many other startups, they probably would have taken too much VC money and got themselves in a situation where the VC wouldn't sell unless it was $2B+.

2. Atlassian now has a product that is loved by many developers and business people alike. It will easily be interegrated into their existing stack and it complements their products very well.

TLDR: Both Trello & Atlassian were smart in this acquisition. Couldn't be happier for them (and as a user).

Edit: typos

[1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/trello#/entity

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

#150

This is a great acquistion for both parties. 1. Trello was smart in only taking $10M in VC funding [1]. This allows for a 40x return for it's investors. If Trello were like many other startups, they probably would have taken too much VC money and got themselves in a situation where the VC wouldn't sell unless it was $2B+. 2. Atlassian now has a product that is loved by many developers and business people alike. It wi…

$10M in funding implies a valuation of $50-100M, which means a 4-8x return not a 40x return.
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