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Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by randlet »

hughes wrote: post #116
randlet wrote: post #110

For what it's worth, this tech has been available in hearing aids for a long time already. I carry a remote that can: * switch my hearing aids between 5 different programs depending on the environment. * play "fractal" like tones to combat my tinnitus * adjust the volume including muting the outside world * play music from anything with a 3.5mm jack (bluetooth also available) * hear calls from my phone * probably mor…

What do hearing aids with those feature cost? I feel like even premium Bose products would be cheap in comparison

Yes, they're expensive. I think I payed $6000 total for 2 hearing aids with a 3 year service contract and expect them to last 5-6 years (possibly longer). You can certainly get cheaper ones though without all the bells and whistles. You're right though, Bose is going to have to come in way below that price ;)

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by musesum »

sna1l wrote: post #74
musesum wrote: post #34

So, same market as the DopplerLabs Hear One? I am the ideal customer: some hearing loss from my VJ days, but still appreciate frequency response. I render all my music at 192Khz. Basic hearing aids suck at frequency response. Most drop off at around 8KHz Meanwhile, Apple has created a pipeline for hearing aid. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201466 I haven't used it. I often work out of noisy cafes. So, I wear Bose…

I was pretty excited for the Hear One's but now they've been delayed until March. :( If they can actually land a product with a truly wireless experience, that would be awesome!

Yep, Doppler and Apple delaying product.

A friend has worn the simple noise cancelling version of the Hear One to a loud concert. She loves them.

Another friend has the Bragi Dash earbuds and was complaining of some Bluetooth drop-out.

IMO, would rather have a neck band sending out RF than something sitting inside my head. Maybe the new passive WiFi solves that concern at 1/10,000 the power?

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by Cafey »

rl3 wrote: post #93
boobsbr wrote: post #77

Wow, this address a major problem I have. I have decent hearing, but when I'm in a noisy environment like a bar, I can hear but can't understand what other people are saying. It's why I don't like going to bars/pubs with live performances or ambient music. People think I'm bored or brooding because I'm not talking to anyone, but I just can't understand anything anyone says, so I can't participate in a conversation.

Same. I often wonder how bartenders do it. Granted it doesn't stop me from being outgoing, but people having to almost shout or otherwise talk directly into my ear gets old after a while. I suspect it's not an issue with hearing itself so much as the brain processing the information. In quiet conditions I can usually hear whispered conversations a good distance away.

I really really am bad at hearing anything in a noisy environment yet I was a bartender for 3 years and never had a problem getting someone's order. You get used to reading people's lips given that there is only a limited amount of things they could be ordering.

Very often I didn't understand what the clients were talking to me about but then I'd hear keywords like "beer" or "tequila" and the quantity they want is very often requested using hand gestures (finger count).

Even then, the usual conversation between a bartender and the client is very short. To the contrary, when getting together with a bunch of friends you have to listen to entire stories which is way harder.

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by stcredzero »

wyager wrote: post #79
_fs wrote: post #9

I really wish someone was working to solve the problem of tinnitus. Would it be possible to generate anti phase wave out of these things to cancel out tinnitus? I would pay anything and/or wear any goofy device in my ears to live life tinnitus free.

> Would it be possible to generate anti phase wave out of these things to cancel out tinnitus? No. Tinnitus is not caused by a real sound. It occurs somewhere after the phase-erasing Fourier transform performed by the physical structure of the ear. If it were caused by a real sound, or the brain added sounds in the time space (rather than the frequency space), it would work. But neurons are not fast enough to handle…

But neurons are not fast enough to handle time-domain sound processing, so they offload Fourier transformation to the ear and then work with the (presumably phaseless) frequency-domain representation.

Then how is it that you can play one frequency into one ear and a slightly different frequency in the other ear, and the brain will register the beat frequency?

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by JacobJans »

Certified wrote: post #64
_fs wrote: post #9

I really wish someone was working to solve the problem of tinnitus. Would it be possible to generate anti phase wave out of these things to cancel out tinnitus? I would pay anything and/or wear any goofy device in my ears to live life tinnitus free.

A project I worked on suggests vibrating the bone just under the earlobe at around 50kHz with a piezoelectric stack might help. 8 years or so ago I helped make a pocket sized and rechargeable medical device that operates on this principle. Last I checked it was still in FDA hell but helping the majority of sufferers in the trials. The theory of operation is that is breaks up tiny air bubbles stuck to the hairs in the…

I would love to learn more. I know someone who suffers from severe tinnitus. Any improvement could be very life-changing!

edit: is this your project? http://www.tinnitus.vcu.edu/Pages/Tinnitus%20Improvement.pdf

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by randlet »

stcredzero wrote: post #139
boobsbr wrote: post #77

Wow, this address a major problem I have. I have decent hearing, but when I'm in a noisy environment like a bar, I can hear but can't understand what other people are saying. It's why I don't like going to bars/pubs with live performances or ambient music. People think I'm bored or brooding because I'm not talking to anyone, but I just can't understand anything anyone says, so I can't participate in a conversation.

I often have difficulty parsing speech in noisy bar/club environs. This has always made me into a bit of a wallflower. Then I started dating a woman who was also very wallflowery, but mostly because it was a lot of effort for her to talk loudly. We ended up having a lot of arguments, because she'd say things to me, I'd tell her I couldn't understand what she was saying, then she'd refuse to talk louder but still hold…

Oh how I know that feeling. The absolute biggest benefit of getting hearing aids was that my relationship with my wife improve immensely. Not joking at all, it was a constant source of friction between us even though logically we both knew neither one of us was really to blame.

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by iamatworknow »

mi100hael wrote: post #106
iamatworknow wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their headphones are great in terms of the quality of sound they produce, but their durability leaves a lot to be desired. I've used both the MC5's and HF5's and both ended up with shorting out on one side (HF5) or falling apart (MC5) on me within just a few months.

Interesting, mine have held up pretty well. My hf3s are going on four years old. I've used them on a near daily basis at work and fairly frequently under a motorcycle helmet. The exterior sleeve of the cords is starting to fray at the attachment points to the actual earphones, but they still work just fine. I expect I'll have to finally replace them within the next year or so, but I'll do it happily because they've o…

>The exterior sleeve of the cords is starting to fray at the attachment points to the actual earphones, but they still work just fine.

That's how it started with my MC5's. I put a piece of heat shrink tubing over the fray in order to postpone their demise but ultimately the plastic housing of the driver itself broke. The HF5's one day just stopped working out of one ear. I was never particularly rough with them or anything and only really used them at the office, but that was it for me.

I since moved on to a pair of Sennheiser MM 550-Xs but stopped using them because there was Bluetooth interference in my office (every one of about 70 desks in an open plan has a Bluetooth phone headset). Plus, the band messed with my hair and scalp.

Now I'm on a pair of Sennheiser CX 686G SPORTS that I originally bought for running but now use at the office. Sound's good enough and the build quality is superb since it was designed to be tossed about while doing active stuff.

I would gladly go back to Etymotic if they came out with something new in the $100ish price range, but for now I'll stick with Sennheiser. I've bought probably 6 different pairs of headphones from Sennheiser of varying styles in the past decade or so, and they all still work (with varying degrees of wear and tear). The only time a pair has broken on me was because I stupidly tried putting them on after they spent a night in a below-freezing car and didn't give them time to warm up, snapping the plastic headband, and their warranty service still replaced them with no questions asked.

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by stcredzero »

dawnerd wrote: post #40
abakker wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've learned that it is just necessary to bring foam earplugs to a lot of events. (even movie theaters now). In general, if the performers are wearing them, you probably should be, too. Your health is not a good place to think about being worried about what other people aren't doing to protect theirs.

You should look into something like these instead of regular foam. http://www.etymotic.com/consumer/hearing-protection.html I got a pair for EDC after realizing the foam earplugs were ruining the music. These reduce the volume with minimal muffling. Also pretty cheap considering they'll last a long time. I picked them up at guitar center - they can help you get the right ones.

I'll corroborate. I'm a musician, and I can play music wearing Ety-Plugs! (I used to buy the ER-20 "baby blues" but the same object is now called "Ety-Plug.") They are far from perfect, but for the money, they're pretty darn good. (Freq response is not flat. However, it's way flatter than the foam plugs.)

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by randlet »

fillskills wrote: post #140
randlet wrote: post #110

For what it's worth, this tech has been available in hearing aids for a long time already. I carry a remote that can: * switch my hearing aids between 5 different programs depending on the environment. * play "fractal" like tones to combat my tinnitus * adjust the volume including muting the outside world * play music from anything with a 3.5mm jack (bluetooth also available) * hear calls from my phone * probably mor…

Can you share a link? I know someone who could really use the help

I use Widex Dream 440's[1] (superseded by the Unique 440's I think) but all of the major players (Siemens, Widex, etc) offer these features.

[1] http://www.ziphearing.com/blog/widex-dream-440-review/

Re: Bose Hearphones

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Post by Jtsummers »

jseliger wrote: post #102
boobsbr wrote: post #77

Wow, this address a major problem I have. I have decent hearing, but when I'm in a noisy environment like a bar, I can hear but can't understand what other people are saying. It's why I don't like going to bars/pubs with live performances or ambient music. People think I'm bored or brooding because I'm not talking to anyone, but I just can't understand anything anyone says, so I can't participate in a conversation.

Try these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044DEESS . I keep a pair in my pocket. They're shockingly good, and unless someone is looking closely for them they're not real noticeable. They're also cheap enough that a lost pair is not catastrophic.

I've been using these [0] for years at the initial recommendation of a colleague who goes shooting frequently. They've been great for travel on airlines, and for nights out at loud(er) events.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DH0YOS

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