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Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by digler999 »

atsaloli wrote: post #139
digler999 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

psychotherapy is a form of treatment for many psychological disorders as defined by the DSM-V. The treatment varies based on the therapist's style and patient preference, but it always centers around talking to a licensed professional about the patient's feelings, behaviors, thoughts, dreams, fears. Through talking, the therapist can spot patterns of harmful and destructive beliefs and thought patterns. To use a bit…

BTW, NIMH has turned away from the DSM due to "lack of validity ". https://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/directors/thomas-insel/blog/2... If it's that inexact, I wouldn't call it science. There's presently no standard objective laboratory test for Anxiety, Depression, or similar.

> There's presently no standard objective laboratory test

I don't know what's so special about a "laboratory". Is there a name yet for this fallacy "because a machine told me, it must be true." ? Should we name it the "calculator fallacy" or the "internet fallacy" ?

from your link: "That is why NIMH will be re-orienting its research away from DSM categories." Its research, it doesn't do any good to toss DSM for treatment of mental disorders. I believe thats why they revise the DSM every year (?), is to keep up with changes in diagnosis. If a new classification system comes along, then replace "DSM" with whatever they call theirs.

Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by davewongillies »

valuablevalve wrote: post #61

After a 10 year fight induced from stress, I can positively say that I'm free from it, just reading a page like this would have floored me 5 years ago. Some stuff I learned: - Stop* with coffee, for some reason tea does not the same thing to my body, coffee is like gasoline on the anxiety fire, I cant stress this point enough. - Stop* with nicotine, (almost) same as coffee - Stop* drinking, you need to stay strong 7…

> - Stop* with coffee, for some reason tea does not the same thing to my body, coffee is like gasoline on the anxiety fire, I cant stress this point enough.

Tea has the amino acid L-theanine [1] in it, which is supposed to reduce the "jittery" effects of coffee.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theanine

Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

valuablevalve wrote: post #128
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #95

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I'll second the walking when it is dark. I live in Norway. Tomorrow, the sun rises a bit after 9 and sets before 3. If you work first shift or office hours, you miss the light. This advice just isn't possible for some people. If you are finding that the season's darkness gets you, it is really a seperate issue. Vitamin D helps a lot of folks as does light therapy.

I know that in the real world, people have work to do, kids to fetch and all those things, but if you can, please try, its not just about the sunlight = Vitamin D, its also about the sensory input you get while walking, that is very soothing and distracting, everything calms down considerably during and after.

But you miss so much of the sensory stuff - and beauty - if you don't go out at night! To be fair, a few times a year I catch things like Northern lights: Downtown is just charming with the christmas lights up on the trees with snow on the ground. In autumn the air smells like leaves, and the snow leaves a crisp smell to the air and an oddly echoing silence. Sometimes it downright sparkles from the reflection of the streetlights. Ice isn't so wonderful to walk in unless you've good footwear or some sort of cleats to put on your shoes, but it does give a neat shiny coating to everything, which is especially beautiful during sunrise and sunset - and sometimes under the house lights the trees just glisten with ice.

Walking is my main form of transportation, so I do a great deal of it, and appreciate it so long as it isn't too cold. Granted, I used to view it the same way until I moved here.

Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by amelius »

benibela wrote: post #36

I have holes in a few of my clothes. Today I went to a shop selling needles/yarn/wool/.., so I could fix them. I arrived at the shop, was too anxious to enter and left again. Guess the holes will have to stay.

What steps have you taken so far to try to treat your anxiety?

Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by soared »

> a 4 hour commute (both ways)

What the fuck is this person doing and why do they think its okay? According to that paragraph she's home at 8pm. She leaves for work at 4am. That leaves 8 hours total to eat, sleep, and live your life.

He just brushes over that until later when she casually leaves her job (for no reason given). C'mon guy.. that was the root of the problem!

Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by drdeadringer »

soared wrote: post #146

> a 4 hour commute (both ways) What the fuck is this person doing and why do they think its okay? According to that paragraph she's home at 8pm. She leaves for work at 4am. That leaves 8 hours total to eat, sleep, and live your life. He just brushes over that until later when she casually leaves her job (for no reason given). C'mon guy.. that was the root of the problem!

I had a 1.5h commute both ways and that caused me anxiety problems.

Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by leaveyou »

b1tr0t wrote: post #107

OK - I'll bite. I haven't seen anyone mention medications here but personally I use propranolol. Life. Changing. For the first while I took it every day as prescribed for my ET. 20mg. And as I experienced the first pill (effects kick in about 40 minutes after), I had this realization "wait a minute, this is what it must feel like to be a normal person"! That light bulb in itself was incredible. Before that, I hadn't…

After more than 10 years of serious and progressing anxiety disorder I discovered this plant wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypericum (Hypericum Perforatum or Millepertuis in french). In less than 3 weeks I was a different man. Ironically it has one noticeable "side effect": it has aphrodisiac properties (I didn't know it but it became quite obvious after several weeks. It's confirmed by other sources too). Also raises your Photosensitivity. One year later I still take one filmed capsule of plant extract every other evening and I don't stop taking it for more than a week or else I start to feel the unforgettable signs of anxiety creeping back.

Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by jsprogrammer »

digler999 wrote: post #141
atsaloli wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BTW, NIMH has turned away from the DSM due to "lack of validity ". https://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/directors/thomas-insel/blog/2... If it's that inexact, I wouldn't call it science. There's presently no standard objective laboratory test for Anxiety, Depression, or similar.

> There's presently no standard objective laboratory test I don't know what's so special about a "laboratory". Is there a name yet for this fallacy "because a machine told me, it must be true." ? Should we name it the "calculator fallacy" or the "internet fallacy" ? from your link: "That is why NIMH will be re-orienting its research away from DSM categories." Its research , it doesn't do any good to toss DSM for trea…

As astaloli said, the DSM is not valid.

If changes in diagnoses are changing yearly...the NIMH seems completely correct in rejecting the book.

Re: Married to someone with anxiety

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Post by gengkev »

soared wrote: post #146

> a 4 hour commute (both ways) What the fuck is this person doing and why do they think its okay? According to that paragraph she's home at 8pm. She leaves for work at 4am. That leaves 8 hours total to eat, sleep, and live your life. He just brushes over that until later when she casually leaves her job (for no reason given). C'mon guy.. that was the root of the problem!

He does mention 6am elsewhere in the article, so perhaps she works less than 8 hours. But spending 8 hours a day on commuting is a definite recipe for disaster.
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