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Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by webkike »

cmdrfred wrote: post #125
webkike wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue I have is that most of our progress will be undone. The Paris Climate Accord rejected. Obamacare dismantled. Dodd Frank repealed. It's easier to destroy the world than it is to save it.

As this election shows many in the middle class aren't fans of Obamacare. Maybe it isn't a boon to them as many people claim. The middle class are finding high deducable plans that increase in price by 25% each year and when it becomes too unaffordable for them, they are forced to drop it and they are fined. You'd be pissed off too.

Sure but I don't think the solution is to get rid of Obamacare, the solution is to fix it. And even getting rid of only Obamacare would be preferable compared to all the damage he could do.

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Post by ajross »

DamnYuppie wrote: post #108
ap22213 wrote: post #87

I'll probably stop working for a while. I really don't want to support these creepy people in small town and rural america. They should no longer get my tax money to prop up their almost non-existent economies, and they certainly shouldn't enjoy a 1st world lifestyle on my back. No more 60-hour weeks for me. I'm retiring. I hope other follow. Maybe they'll finally get off their couch, turn off breitbart, and actually…

Many of these rural people aren't looking for you to prop up their economies. They are eager for you to stop outsourcing their jobs, demeaning their existence, lowering their wages so executives can get large bonuses, and in general acting like you are much better/above them. Even more so they are eager to get to work and have a representative government that listens to them and isn't trying to push an elitist global…

With all due respect, what specific policy changes do you expect that will address their job outsourcing, demeaning of existence, and lowered wages (?!? seriously?).

I see democrats with specific answers to all of these questions and none from Trump. I mean, OK: we lost, you won. But that also means you need to govern now and not just shitpost. Wat do?

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Post by rndmio »

koolba wrote: post #70

As someone who's actively vocalized his support for Trump in the past, both here[1] and in my meat space life, I'm ecstatic with the results of this election. Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country. On top of all that, with the SCOTUS picks that are expected in the next few years, this election is going to be…

Given that the campaign was so divisive and acrimonious, what makes you think the losing side is just going to say 'ok' and get on board? If they think he's going to be as bad as they say surely they should do everything to frustrate him? Same as the Republicans did to Obama.

It's naive to think that just because the vote is in that it's over, look at the UK and Brexit.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by jernfrost »

Sigh, the only think positive I can imagine coming out of this is that now, I get four years I can make fun of how stupid American's are.

As the country descends into chaos and non of Trump's promises comes truth I can sit in my couch and keep repeating: "I told you so!"

Good thing Republican's get all the power. Now they fully own all the shit that is to come. They wont be able to blame that on anybody else.

I think Brexit and the Trump victory has hammered home that democracy in its current form doesn't work. It has no mechanism to protect itself against stupidity and ignorance.

Or perhaps it is a warning to every country about what happens when economic inequality gets too bad. Before you know it the crazies will grab power.

I hope the rich elites are horrified today. Because they have created this monster, by consistently funding efforts working against the interests of the middle class and eroding it. Now it has blown up in their face.

I almost feel a slight schadenfreude over the trade wars which will follow with China and Mexico and all the businesses which will lose money over this.

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Post by zichy »

gragas wrote: post #97
vinhboy wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for saying this. I needed this today. I am so damn sick of people trying to wiggle out of the "racist" label. Economic anxiety is not an excuse for racism.

I voted for Trump and I'm not racist.

Yes, we have already established that you are clueless.

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Post by leakybit »

user837387 wrote: post #55

He got elected on all these promises. 1- Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it 2- Deportation Force on day one 3- Repeal obamacare 4- Renegotiate NAFTA 5- Bring back coal 6- Reduce taxes for the rich 7- Ban muslims 8- Prosecuting Hillary Clinton 9- Bring back American companies to the USA 10- Etc. The Senate and the House are Republicans and the Supreme court will lean republican after his appointment. What do yo…

coal isn't even economically viable with current natural gas and oil prices.

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Post by XaspR8d »

curiousgeorgio wrote: post #52
phreack wrote: post #27

As an outsider, it is painfully clear that I should not try to move my business to the US at this point. Europe's looking better than ever now for tech startups.

For what it's worth, Trump's views are likely to be more advantageous for tech startups than Clinton's would have been.

Perhaps? I'm not sure what you're alluding to. Regardless, startups are often attuned to many social issues much more closely than traditional companies, and I can't help but agree that this is a huge discouragement for forward-looking businesses.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

inimino wrote: post #110
user837387 wrote: post #55

He got elected on all these promises. 1- Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it 2- Deportation Force on day one 3- Repeal obamacare 4- Renegotiate NAFTA 5- Bring back coal 6- Reduce taxes for the rich 7- Ban muslims 8- Prosecuting Hillary Clinton 9- Bring back American companies to the USA 10- Etc. The Senate and the House are Republicans and the Supreme court will lean republican after his appointment. What do yo…

I'll play: 6 is a given, 3 is on the table but wouldn't be easy. The rest range from unlikely to impossible.

3 is on the table but wouldn't be easy

It would seem with a republican congress that it would be easy. Why do you think otherwise?

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Post by mch82 »

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

As a community we need to create more tools like WordPress that decentralize wealth creation and create jobs. We need to create fewer tools like Medium that centralize wealth creation and eliminate jobs.

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Post by tmorgan175 »

ap22213 wrote: post #87

I'll probably stop working for a while. I really don't want to support these creepy people in small town and rural america. They should no longer get my tax money to prop up their almost non-existent economies, and they certainly shouldn't enjoy a 1st world lifestyle on my back. No more 60-hour weeks for me. I'm retiring. I hope other follow. Maybe they'll finally get off their couch, turn off breitbart, and actually…

This is the kind of elitist, holier-than-thou, attitude that created a silent majority in the first place. There's probably a middle ground here that you're alienating by using such crude stereotypes.
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