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Re: 23andme for only $99 today only

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It's still available... You have to go to the front page ( https://www.23andme.com/ ). From there, you can still see the deal. When you click "Buy" your cart has the $499 price, with a $400 discount.

Awesome, just bought one for myself, my wife and my unborn son. Now I wonder if I can stall on returning his DNA until he's born in June...

You have 12 months to return your sample for processing.

Re: 23andme for only $99 today only

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Out of honest curiosity, is it a matter of principle for you, or do you really feel harmed by anything companies have done with your private data? Is it a worry about future harm?

It's mostly about potential, not about stuff done to me. The EU now requires fingerprints to be given with your passport application, and the Netherlands, the country where I live has added a little goodie, they're going to keep one nice big fat file with all the prints in them, in case your future self commits some crime (of course, ostensibly that's not what it is for, it is to prevent the (scary sounds) terrorists…

Thanks for your well-articulated comments in this thread. I am glad someone is sticking up for the opposing view.

Re: 23andme for only $99 today only

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Just to give you an example, I just bought at an auction the complete contents of a defunct company. Amongst the stuff I got was their servers and their bookkeeping. I never entered in to any agreement with the people whose data is stored on those servers, and yet I have all of it. A 'survival clause' that would guarantee destruction of your data in case the company goes out of business would be a minimum here. But i…

Looks like they do have a 'survival clause' in their privacy statment: Business Transitions In the event that 23andMe goes through a business transition such as a merger, acquisition by another company, or sale of all or a portion of its assets, your personal information and non-personal information will likely be among the assets transferred. You will be notified in advance via email and prominent notice on our webs…

edit, long after the edit term expired, how would that survival clause be handled in the case of a bankruptcy?

Re: 23andme for only $99 today only

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For an insurer to deny coverage based on genetic information has been against the law in the US for almost 2 years http://www.genome.gov/10002077 . Also, there are health benefits to sharing your genetic information and comparing it with others since the extent of genetic variation within the general population is not currently well understood becuase of limited data. Over time it is also likely that knowledge of you…

How do you know why an insurer denies you coverage?

The way you prove any corporate crime. Evidence would have to be obtained that the insurer acquired genetic information and then terminated coverage for individuals it perceived as high risk. This would likely involve many people from within the company. You would have to count on one of them to provide the evidence.

Re: 23andme for only $99 today only

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I Just bought six of these. I'm stoked - this is precisely what I've been waiting for for my family. I actually discovered I was lactose intolerant (after 30+ years) through 23andme - somehow that little detail got by me... :-)

I think you mean to say that you discovered that you have an increased chance of being lactose intolerant through 23andme, they do not tell you that you are lactose intolerant. It may have been something that you found external confirmation for, but 23andme deals in probabilities, as far as I understand the process.

Re: 23andme for only $99 today only

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Heh - you clearly _aren't_ lactose intolerant. Through the simple (and relatively inexpensive) act of popping a lactase tablet before anything with milk, my life got a _whole_ lot better. It's embarrassing how much better things are. When I first got the results, I was like "Woah - 23andMe is broken - _I'm_ not Lactose intolerant" - that's what happens when you live with something your entire life - you baseline off…

Have you tried finding a pill that looks like a lactase tablet and having a friend choose randomly between the two before you consume dairy? I'd say it's more likely that you aren't experiencing a placebo effect, but it never hurts to be sure.

Heh. It's actually pretty easy to identify the people who aren't lactose intolerant by their comments.

Trust me, there are three wonder drugs on this planet in my experience - these aren't like "Aspirin" or "Tylenol" in which placebo effect might be possible, these are drugs where there are almost instant and _very_ physical changes:

o Tums - when I have a really acid stomach. Typically within 90-120 seconds my stomach clears up.

o Amodium - If you ever have the runs (though, you then have this freaky experience of not having a bowel movement for 48-72 hours). Use with extreme caution. I've taken a total of three in my life.

o Lactase - Which basically eliminates an entire suite of issues associated with the inability to digest lactose. In fact, the first few times I used them with a milkshake, the impact was so great, I was a little nervous until I did some reading and discovered the underlying mechanisms (basically breaking Lactose down to Galactose + Glucose) - Changed my life.

Re: 23andme for only $99 today only

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Well, today they're 23andme, arguably in fairly rough waters (which is probably the reason for this promotion in the first place). Tomorrow they could be sold to the highest bidder, who might not feel they were bound to the terms of service of their predecessor. It could be an insurance company, for instance. And based on your name, your genetic data and a whole bunch of other factors they might decide to deny you or…

For an insurer to deny coverage based on genetic information has been against the law in the US for almost 2 years http://www.genome.gov/10002077 . Also, there are health benefits to sharing your genetic information and comparing it with others since the extent of genetic variation within the general population is not currently well understood becuase of limited data. Over time it is also likely that knowledge of you…

From the 23andme website:

"You should be careful about sharing your genetic information with others. Currently, very few businesses or insurance companies request genetic information, but this could change in the future. While the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act was signed into law in the United States in 2008, the protection it will provide against discrimination by employers and health insurance companies for employment and coverage issues has not been clearly established."

So it's a law but there has not been any test of this. Let's hope the law holds up.

Re: 23andme for only $99 today only

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Yes, you're right, sorry about the confusion. The point I was trying to make was they give you the 'limited' version, but you give them everything. They may not sequence it all today but they could do so in the future (I'm assuming they keep copies), and they could sell your samples to parties that can sequence it all (today or in the future).

From their privacy policy ( https://www.23andme.com/legal/privacy/ ) it seems they destroy the sample after generating the SNP map (Personal Info section, Genetic Info subsection paragraph 1).

A bit after the fact, but apparently they have the option to 'biobank' your saliva, which means they store it for the longer term. It would be interesting to know how many people use that option.
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