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Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by yread »

rubber_duck wrote: post #50

Nvidia GTX 9xxM - from what I understand 10xx cards offer the biggest difference in performance generation-to-generation seen in a while on the mobile side - the 10xx mobile versions are basically identical to desktop versions, 9xx are not even close - so why put last gen mobile tech in to a high end professional desktop product ? Especially considering the likelihood of VR proliferation in content creation - I could…

I was also wondering about that. They probably had to do a lot of customizations on the board to fit it in such a tiny place and cool it effectively. Designing such things can take quite some time. It is a shame, though

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by dragonwriter »

swang wrote: post #119
dragonwriter wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The current use of "Surface" itself is an example of Microsoft watering down a brand in much the same way; it might be careless but it's absolutely consistent with Microsoft's past behavior.

Surface originally was a large windows tablet that doubled as a "table" it also had fancy sensors underneath that allowed you to do a couple of cool things and other way cooler things that never came to fruition. Seems like it would have died off as a huge blundering $10k per table mess by Microsoft. Or as a badly thought out Windows RT Surface tablet. I would have liked another Surface table (one that actually got b…

Sure, it's a broader brand, but one with less coherent meaning; the same that would be the case with moving Pixelsense to a generic label for high-reoslution displaces rather than a specific mark for displays with, among other features, close-range camera-based object recognition.

In fact, there's a fairly close parallel between the broadening of the two brands between the two since Surface was originally the brand for devices incorporating Pixelsense, which was the brand attached to the combination of particular UX technologies, including the camera-based object recognition.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by reitanqild »

laurent123456 wrote: post #11

With its Subsystem for Linux aimed at developers and now this desktop PC for designers, it seems Microsoft is quickly catching up with Apple. Now if they could release a good alternative to the MacBook Pro that would be great.

Yep, can't wait for them to disrupt the whole bloatware-malware-and-lousy-drivers industry that is and has been Dell, HP, Lenovo etc.

Apologies to any of you who works for any of these, I understand that a number of you are most likely decent people but I am really tired of seeing new crawling slow pcs that becomes fast once you install a fresh Windows without bloatware.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by and0 »

slantyyz wrote: post #74
NetStrikeForce wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me, from the naming (Studio) to the price, that this is purely a professional tool and not a high-end home computer. Microsoft has plenty of partners to compete with the iMac. Now those partners can look into the Surface Studio as something to aspire to.

The 3:2 aspect ratio probably makes it less consumery as well.

Surfaces (Pro and standard) have been 3:2 for a couple years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_3

Not refuting your implication necessarily, but worth knowing their flagship (standard and high-end) devices have been 3:2.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by rollinDyno »

mhomde wrote: post #71

I can't but feel sad that Microsoft somehow is dropping the ball on mobile despite them having been, briefly, in a prime position to succeed. They've executed well with their "One platform"-strategy. UWP is great and with the new composition API their finally moving into being able to compete in the modern software arena. Meanwhile on the hardware side Panos is basically doing what Apple should have been doing if the…

Isn't the Surface "mobile"? I know you mean smartphones and tablets, but if they're capable of making a portable tactile device with a fully functional OS they should be able to one day easily port that to a screen with smaller dimensions.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by ivan_gammel »

novaleaf wrote: post #89
mhomde wrote: post #71

I can't but feel sad that Microsoft somehow is dropping the ball on mobile despite them having been, briefly, in a prime position to succeed. They've executed well with their "One platform"-strategy. UWP is great and with the new composition API their finally moving into being able to compete in the modern software arena. Meanwhile on the hardware side Panos is basically doing what Apple should have been doing if the…

They arn't in a prime position to succeed with mobile. Not anymore. That ship sailed 3+ years ago.

Never say never. Apple was not in position to succeed in mobile (they were even not on the market at all, when there were Nokia and others). But now they have pretty big share. Despite the iPhone, Samsung was able to become the top smartphone maker. Chinese manufacturers like Xiaomi are the rock stars of today. There are always opportunities if you are ready to innovate.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by kybernetikos »

rubber_duck wrote: post #50

Nvidia GTX 9xxM - from what I understand 10xx cards offer the biggest difference in performance generation-to-generation seen in a while on the mobile side - the 10xx mobile versions are basically identical to desktop versions, 9xx are not even close - so why put last gen mobile tech in to a high end professional desktop product ? Especially considering the likelihood of VR proliferation in content creation - I could…

Not to mention that driving a 5k screen well is going to take some heft.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by cma »

reitanqild wrote: post #126
Osiris wrote: post #83

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They were in mobile from the beginning with Windows CE. Balmer thought the iPhone was a joke and they so they didn't try to adapt. By the time they did, Android and iOS had hundreds of thousands of apps. So they are in a catch-22, they can't gain marketshare because they don't have enough apps and no one will write apps for it because they don't have any marketshare. I think their strategy so far is good. Get Windows…

The saddest part is maybe how close they where: I so wanted it but waited and waited for a waterproof Nokia and then ended with a Sony Z series and later a Samsung something waterproof flagship. Others waited for instasnapsomething but I almost can't care less I think as long as the platdorm has a couple of good alternatives for notes and calendar + Whatsapp and Telegram. Now I almost feel bad for not supporting them…

This video was probably mostly just faked concepty stuff, but they were showing it before ipad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlpftPSuXe4

If they had managed to get something like that out that would have helped them a lot.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by blackoil »

digi_owl wrote: post #41
blackoil wrote: post #27

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That was the technology of original Pixelsense, now MS is just using the brand name for high quality display like 'retina' is for Apple.

It would be careless of them to water down the brand like that, after having developed the technology in the first place.

that tech itself doesn't have big use outside some niche/demos, and they needed a brand against retina so ...
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