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The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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When the $200 phone bursts into flames, are you able to sue the Chinese manufacturer for damages? When your $200 phone breaks, do you have to simply buy a new one rather than get it replaced? When there are security holes in your $200 phone, will the cheap skin over Android get patched? I buy Apple phones for one reason, and that's the fact that my business lives and dies through communication. With my $800 phone, I…

In Norway in Apple-certified stores you will have to wait a week or more for reparation. And they do not provide a replacement in the meantime...

Apple-certified retailers aren't the same thing as Apple stores. That said, http://www.apple.com/retail/storelist/ doesn't list any stores in Norway, so I guess you don't really have much choice.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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For me I'm paying the premium for a number of reasons, mainly Apple's stance on privacy and security. You'll be hard pressed to find the same security and privacy commitment from any manufacturer of Android or other competing devices.

Apple was more than willing to give up one of their users when it benefited them: https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/21/kickasstorrents-apple-fa... Android is open source. You can get rid of all the google bits if you really want to.

I don't know how you're reading that article, but to me, it sounds like Apple was likely complying with a legal court order for the information. And it really wasn't very much information, seems to be just the IP address that was used to make an iTunes purchase on a particular day. Not particularly privacy-invading, since this is something that falls well within the information that courts can order Apple to turn over.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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I returned my 7+ as it's barely any different to the 6S+, and at £719 here in the UK for the 32GB model it was hard to stomach. £819 for 128GB model is now almost Macbook territory in my mind. I had barely any free space on the 32GB model, and using an adaptor for my headphones was annoying. The camera was good though. A 64GB 6S+ is a much better proposition to me and will be my daily driver until I find something be…

The price points between the 7+ now and the 6S+ last year are virtually identical (I found a reference that suggests the 64GB 6S+ was $849, and the 128GB 7+ is $869 now). Would I be correct in assuming that this price point is now considered too expensive because of Brexit (causing the pound to fall)?

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> Are you really that often in that situation though? Yeah, my phone is a business tool, and I'm on the phone frequently. Its useless if I can't be on it on wired headphones while it recharges from long phone calls.

You can if you're willing to shell out $40. Belkin makes an adaptor for this. http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HKKP2ZM/A/belkin-lightning...

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Totally agree. I decided to get adventurous a while back on my last laptop upgrade and went with a Dell XPS 13. It had so much potential, specs were great and it felt sold but at the end of the day it won't run macOS and win10 was just not a great dev experience. Switched back to a Macbook pro after less than a month when the screen died on the XPS and it took Dell about a month to fix it.

You don't get an XPS. Or any consumer/creative/performance/whatthefever oriented laptops Dell and HP may suddenly decide to offer because of some idiotic marketing decision. Their business workstations is where it's at. Always been solid on all fronts (except design, I guess, but that's subjective).

Their business workstations... which cost as much or more than a truly comparable Mac.

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To be fair, the Pixel is a horrible value, as it doesn't seem to be as significantly better than what it's replacing relative to the significant increase in price.

Is the price difference that significant? To me, the difference between a $1000 phone and a $400 is less than $1 per day (I keep my phones for 24 months). A buck a day is something I can afford and am willing to pay it for even a modestly better phone. I would guess a lot of HN readers are in a similar position. I wish Google would have come out with something much better even if it would have been more expensive tha…

There is value in looking at amortized price, but keep in mind many people (esp. fans) upgrade more frequently than 24mo. For them the cost differential is much sharper and more frequent.

Also add in the fact that unlike on the Apple side, most of the Android customer base can simply wait a few months or even weeks and get a much better price (see: most LG phones based on my research), or the same specs from a different manufacturer.

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When the $200 phone bursts into flames, are you able to sue the Chinese manufacturer for damages? When your $200 phone breaks, do you have to simply buy a new one rather than get it replaced? When there are security holes in your $200 phone, will the cheap skin over Android get patched? I buy Apple phones for one reason, and that's the fact that my business lives and dies through communication. With my $800 phone, I…

To be fair, the $800 phone is currently bursting into flames everywhere and people are having lots of trouble getting help from Samsung.

Ha walked into that one.

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> Is anyone making different decisions based on the headphone jack? Not me. I already use wireless headphones at the gym and while running. The only loss is I cannot charge and listen at the same time which is something I rarely did anyway. Given how Google abruptly leaves projects behind, the Pixel needs a few releases before I would trust it staying around. Flagship priced Android phones are also a tough market bec…

> the Pixel needs a few releases before I would trust it staying around Genuinely honest: Android's been out there for a long while. Even if the Pixel was the last Pixel ever, why would that be a problem from me as a user? When it's time to replace, I'm going to look at the other Android phones too anyway.

That's good point. Probably a non-issue since I assume it would get updates for at least 2 years.

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Probably for the same reasons my current company is migrating away from anything Microsoft. Given the past actions, one just doesn't know what the pricing will be in future, and it makes sense to spend money to move to Linux now, instead in x years under deadlines. I realize this is unrelated to the main topic, but it illustrates human foresight.

The principal problem with abandoning Apple at this point being that you can't get developer grade desktop hardware anywhere outside Apple at a reasonable price. And if Apple ever goes back to making new laptops, those will probably be head and shoulders better than the competition at the same price, too. We don't know for certain, of course, since it's been two years since Apple has made new MacBook Pros with more t…

I will concede the point about laptops but saying that

> you can't get developer grade desktop hardware anywhere outside Apple at a reasonable price.

is just false.

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